Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Do you support the Wall St. protesters?
Yes 157 51.48%
No 148 48.52%
Voters: 305. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-09-2011, 07:11 PM
 
3,265 posts, read 3,194,970 times
Reputation: 1440

Advertisements

Just do what I as a gen x-er did when the going got tough- slang rocks. You gotta hustle to make that guap, son.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-09-2011, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
5,864 posts, read 4,981,656 times
Reputation: 4207
Quote:
Originally Posted by alphamale View Post
Never.

The Tea Party are decent, law abiding citizens who want Constitutional fixes for America's problems.

The ows're are a bunch of socialists looking for a handout.
I've come to realize you're not here looking for any rational or reasonable debate. You just spout off talking points and occasionally give yourself a big pat on the back for being so awesome and call it a day.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2011, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
5,513 posts, read 5,242,711 times
Reputation: 6243
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
We're the lost generaion. We are not fortunate like our parents. Our parents had jobs to get them by. Most of my friends say that their parents already owned homes when they were the same age. A lot of the people in generation Y are having a hard time. This generation is the one that got impacted the most from the result of globalization. We're the boomerang kids. We return home after graduation because there are not many opportunities for us to support ourselves. High paying jobs are bias towards those who are highly educated.

I find it disgusting that the baby boomers are ridiculing those protesting since they made things worse for our generation.
Actually, wages stagnated at the end of the 1970s, and the working class has been losing ground since then. My spouse and I graduated college in 1983, in the middle of massive nationwide unemployment, and despite honors degrees in the toughest technical field offered, we were forced into the military and wasted another 5 full years treading financial water. Then, start again at the bottom of the career ladder. In our entire lives there hasn't been a single year of significant job opportunities (in ANY of the fields we have been in), or economic prosperity. It was always either a Recession or a "jobless recovery." Of course, the last 10 years have been catastrophic in terms of losing ground, and I don't see things turning around until a functional, totally different economy arises in the void left by the collapsed, failed experiment in "globalization."

In my parent's era, one man could support a family of 4 or 5 working 40 hours a week. By the time I got a job, it took TWO incomes to support a family, and decent-paying jobs were expecting more and more hours per week (but no paid overtime). Now 80 hours a week is standard in our industry, and pensions are GONE. I think retirement will be a concept that disappears again, like it suddenly appeared. I know we won't get a secure retirement, despite giving EVERYTHING (and every minute) to technical careers.

The last group to work in an era of plenty of well-paying jobs (whether you were highly educated or not) has been retired for over 15 years now. They got to retire at 62--while my generation is ALREADY slated to have to work until age 67. No doubt they'll move the SS eligibility date to 90 for my generation and be done with the false promises.

And yes, the EARLY Baby Boomers got a really good deal, and will continue to get a good deal as they enjoy both pensions AND Social Security and Medicare, fully protected from any cuts. The paid the LEAST in Social Security, while ALL the benefits cuts fall on those of us who paid the MOST into the system (the late Baby Boom, and after). We'll be lucky to get a single penny back, after losing 15.3% of every dollar we ever made just to this one ponzi-scam excuse for a retirement program.

Our generation (the very tail end of the Baby Boom) got a rotten deal, but those after us will, overall, have it much worse. I am still astounded by the absolute destruction of the Middle Class just in my short lifetime, and I place 99% of the blame on the Big Businesses who decided to steal ALL the nation's wealth through the "Free Trade" fiasco, and the Big Government that greased the legal wheels to help them do this, while taxing the Middle Class into oblivion with endless foreign wars, infinite spending, and pork and corruption to a level that would bankrupt even a functional economy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2011, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
10,029 posts, read 8,349,276 times
Reputation: 4212
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
We're the lost generaion. We are not fortunate like our parents. Our parents had jobs to get them by. Most of my friends say that their parents already owned homes when they were the same age. A lot of the people in generation Y are having a hard time. This generation is the one that got impacted the most from the result of globalization. We're the boomerang kids. We return home after graduation because there are not many opportunities for us to support ourselves. High paying jobs are bias towards those who are highly educated.


I find it disgusting that the baby boomers are ridiculing those protesting since they made things worse for our generation.

There are some things that would be key for you in addition to knowledge. These would be a set of balls and personal accountability. Instead of whining about how the world dealt you a crappy hand why don't you do something about it? I was born in 1969. I hated school so I never went to college. My parents moved out of state after I graduated from highschool and I didn't want to go so I was on my own at 18. I always supported myself. I drove a truck for a few years but I didn't like it and I wanted to do something else and make more money. I decided to get into sales at 22 since it offered a career path with advancement potential and good income potential. I never had any student loan debt or any other debt and I was able to buy my first house at 27 with a 5% down payment. I eventually got into management and I had a six figure income by the time I was 30. I've taken lots of hits and I'm not doing nearly as well now as I once was but instead of crying about it and trying to place blame I'm looking to try new and different things to evolve in my career and get back to where I want to be. What are you doing to better your situation besides complaining about it on forums? Maybe you're also carrying aroud a sign with some "99%" horse droppings on it along with your tales of woe. I find these people beyond pathetic. A cry baby entitled attitude will get you nowhere fast as you seem to be discovering right now. People who are fortunate are where they are more often than not because they have taken the right course of action and worked hard to get there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2011, 07:37 PM
 
23,838 posts, read 23,131,520 times
Reputation: 9409
I'm a Gen X'r...and my life story is pretty simple, but very successful. I'm not sure what happened along the way, but if if Generation Y/Millenials can't follow the below formula, then all of you really do get what you deserve (ie. nothing):

1) I Grew up in a two parent household
2) I Graduated high school
3) I got my first job at age 14 (work ethic initiated)
4) I put myself through college on student loans (blue collar family) and paid them off through hard work and determination
5) I kept my dick in my pants, or at least kept it covered and acted responsibly
6) I didn't buy things I couldn't afford
7) I didn't marry and have kids before I could afford them
8) I chose and maintained a career path that was sustainable
9) I built a successful business

Bottom line: You get what you EARN. If you don't EARN it, then you don't DESERVE it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2011, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
5,864 posts, read 4,981,656 times
Reputation: 4207
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailordave View Post
And yet I have a job, a home of my own, and a car paid off.
Right, so someone can spend plenty of time using electronics and still accomplish things. I have a stable career, a car nearly paid off and will be in position to be a home soon and yet I'm a "young kid" who grew up playing video games. Stop with the old codger routine, every older generation always thinks the younger generation is going off the deep end be it listening to Elvis Presley, or playing video games.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2011, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Here
11,578 posts, read 13,952,362 times
Reputation: 7009
Gen X FTW. Cheers
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2011, 08:06 PM
 
47,525 posts, read 69,716,559 times
Reputation: 22474
Quote:
Originally Posted by antarez View Post
I see what you're saying Malamute , but here on the West Coast (California) waiting tables, construction, janitorial, fast food, cleaning and many other entry level jobs of the past are flooded with Illegal Aliens and their middle aged relatives.

It was easier in the past for High School aged and College bound kids to find work and enter the job market.

This change was brought about by Reagan's Amnesty ( which was a failure) and the ever increasing policies brought about by Liberals since then.

Calif. Gov. Brown recentley signed the Dream (Nightmare) Act, so now American youngsters have to compete with older retirement age workers who can't afford to retire and Illegal Aliens, Anchor Babies and others in a bad economy.

Granted their is a large segment of Generation Y that is lazy and complacent, but that can be said about other generations to at that age.

It's time the US started taking care of it's own. Time to bring our troops home, Deport alll Illegal Aliens, end foreign aid and most of all vote out that IDIOT OBAMA.

3 years of failure is enough, a change is needed and the Democrats should look into running someone else that isn't all talk.
True.

A lot of it is propaganda that the newer generations have fallen for. In the past, people who needed jobs would consider any kind of jobs -- farm work was not considered too impossible to do especially but over and over kids are told they cannot work a conveyor belt at a farm because it's not a job any American would do. Not so long ago, kids would jump at the chance to do some work because they needed the money.

You're right because now many jobs are denied to Americans. Farmers wouldn't dream of hiring high school or college students in the summer to help bale hay or drive a tractor because the myth is that only foreigners here illegally can do any work.

But these Wall Street protestors also aren't the kinds who would consider doing any kind of job they think is beneath them so it's a vicious circle.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2011, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
30,260 posts, read 23,746,924 times
Reputation: 38651
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
The right-wing always sides with the king and establishment.
No, the right wing always sides with PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Take some of that energy and go make something of yourselves so you don't have to b*tch and moan about what someone else has.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2011, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
5,864 posts, read 4,981,656 times
Reputation: 4207
Quote:
Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
No, the right wing always sides with PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Take some of that energy and go make something of yourselves so you don't have to b*tch and moan about what someone else has.
Just like they did when they bailed out Wall St correct? Or does "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY" only matter if you're middle/lower class?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:54 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top