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Old 10-28-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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ss is not welfare. Medicare is not welfare

i pay for that ...it comes out of my check

do you have a paycheck stub by chance? Look at it

Snarky little guy aren't you. Yes, Welfare is the smallest % of mandatory entitlement. What is also true is that Medicare and SS are insolvent and the vast majority of citizens will draw a far greater amount out of the system than they put in. My guess is that you are one of them.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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So you have this 21 year kid who has all the answers.

Maybe should like to tell us:

How is she going to stop the $60 billion a year Medicare/Medicaid fraud committed by doctors, hospitals, clinics, therapists, and all the other people who use it to cash in on it, including those who work with all of the above?

How is she going to provide jobs for the unemployed?

How is she going to regulate banks and corporations?

How is she going to collect outstanding student loans that go back 20 years?

How is she going to stop corruption in government?

What is she going to do about illegals in the country?

Maybe she thinks 1 child per family is sufficient. If you dare to have a second you have a choice: abort or leave the country.

If she could solve some of those problems, then her solutions for other problems would be moot.

Oh yeah, she has all the answers to what she thinks are the biggest problems we face.

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Old 10-28-2011, 11:52 AM
 
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Snarky little guy aren't you. Yes, Welfare is the smallest % of mandatory entitlement. What is also true is that Medicare and SS are insolvent and the vast majority of citizens will draw a far greater amount out of the system than they put in. My guess is that you are one of them.
SS and medicare are not insolvent. They are under attack by right wingers who want to defund them.

Oh you guess that? Well from history you could get a great idea what suburb I live in. .....Put that city in google along with "Forbes"...and that will tell you how bad I have it...LOL
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Do you notice how all these right wing myths have one thing in common?

They never take on the real power structure in this country. The ultra rich? No..they are worshiped....Corporate greed....not they are "job creators"...LOL


They don't have the spine to do that.....If they are seen mocking the poor ....then in the back of their minds ...they think the rich will throw them a bone.

These white, elderly, poorly educated right wingers are so scared and clueless.
Success of others should be inspiring, not demonized. To begrude others that have attained a level of success by honest hard work is childish and misguided. You could view them as inspiring you to be the best you can be and do the best you can with whatever skills you are blessed with.
Government does not exist to create jobs, or take care of you. It exists to protect your rights, as you take care of yourself. Pride comes from achieving goals set for yourself, not begruding others that have achieved more material wealth than another. Big gov't steals our money and our liberties to feed itself.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:04 PM
 
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SS and medicare are not insolvent. They are under attack by right wingers who want to defund them.

Oh you guess that? Well from history you could get a great idea what suburb I live in. .....Put that city in google along with "Forbes"...and that will tell you how bad I have it...LOL

First off, living in your Daddy's house must be rough.

Here is a snippet from one of about one thousand sources making the same claims.
WASHINGTON — Laid-off workers and aging baby boomers are flooding Social Security's disability program with benefit claims, pushing the financially strapped system toward the brink of insolvency.
Applications are up nearly 50 percent over a decade ago as people with disabilities lose their jobs and can't find new ones in an economy that has shed nearly 7 million jobs.
The stampede for benefits is adding to a growing backlog of applicants – many wait two years or more before their cases are resolved – and worsening the financial problems of a program that's been running in the red for years.
New congressional estimates say the trust fund that supports Social Security disability will run out of money by 2017, leaving the program unable to pay full benefits, unless Congress acts. About two decades later, Social Security's much larger retirement fund is projected to run dry as well.
Much of the focus in Washington has been on fixing Social Security's retirement system. Proposals range from raising the retirement age to means-testing benefits for wealthy retirees. But the disability system is in much worse shape and its problems defy easy solutions.
The trustees who oversee Social Security are urging Congress to shore up the disability system by reallocating money from the retirement program, just as lawmakers did in 1994. That would provide only short-term relief at the expense of weakening the retirement program.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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Racist rant reported to Attackwatch.Org. I hope she enjoys her stay in Guantanamo.

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This was written by a 21 yr old female who gets it. It's her future she’s worried about and this is how she feels about the social welfare big government state that she’s being forced to live in! These solutions are just common sense in her opinion.


This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco , TX Nov 18, 2010

Put me in charge . . .

Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get tats and piercings, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks?






You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your "home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good..”

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules.. Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem," consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND While you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.






Now, if you have the guts - PASS IT ON...
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:15 PM
 
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Success of others should be inspiring, not demonized. To begrude others that have attained a level of success by honest hard work is childish and misguided. You could view them as inspiring you to be the best you can be and do the best you can with whatever skills you are blessed with.
It is only demonized when they got it by means that are Not simply honest hard work, many got it other ways. People such as Steve Jobs are not demonized while some of those on WallStreet are and rightly so.
Government does not exist to create jobs, or take care of you. It exists to protect your rights, as you take care of yourself. Pride comes from achieving goals set for yourself, not begruding others that have achieved more material wealth than another. Big gov't steals our money and our liberties to feed itself.
Good to know you will not be whining about President Oabam not creating jobs for Americans, since you obviously know it is not his job to do so.
Steal money, hmmmm, you mean as do some of those rich you so seem to believe can do no wrong. Liberties, what Liberties have you lost? please list them here for us all to see, maybe we can help out. Hard work is great but what the righthanders and the girl in the "story" seem to think is that it is always enough, bad things can and do happen to good people and it is obvious you could not care less what happens to them. That is EXACTLY WHY we have government programs to help our fellow citizens when they are in need, because so many Americans simply do not give a Da*n.
Anything else you need cleared up? Just ask.
Casper
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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First off, living in your Daddy's house must be rough.

Here is a snippet from one of about one thousand sources making the same claims.
WASHINGTON — Laid-off workers and aging baby boomers are flooding Social Security's disability program with benefit claims, pushing the financially strapped system toward the brink of insolvency.
Applications are up nearly 50 percent over a decade ago as people with disabilities lose their jobs and can't find new ones in an economy that has shed nearly 7 million jobs.
The stampede for benefits is adding to a growing backlog of applicants – many wait two years or more before their cases are resolved – and worsening the financial problems of a program that's been running in the red for years.
New congressional estimates say the trust fund that supports Social Security disability will run out of money by 2017, leaving the program unable to pay full benefits, unless Congress acts. About two decades later, Social Security's much larger retirement fund is projected to run dry as well.
Much of the focus in Washington has been on fixing Social Security's retirement system. Proposals range from raising the retirement age to means-testing benefits for wealthy retirees. But the disability system is in much worse shape and its problems defy easy solutions.
The trustees who oversee Social Security are urging Congress to shore up the disability system by reallocating money from the retirement program, just as lawmakers did in 1994. That would provide only short-term relief at the expense of weakening the retirement program.
Republicans are attempting to face this looming problem head on and save these programs, while the dimwits remain in denial, pretending the well will never go dry.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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Racist rant reported to Attackwatch.Org. I hope she enjoys her stay in Guantanamo.
You cannot lock up fictional characters,
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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Do you think this has anything to do with the problems that SS is and will experience in the future:

June 2010

The intent of the 1983 legislation was to generate large Social Security surpluses for the next 30 years that were supposed to be saved and invested, in order to build up a large reserve in the trust fund that could later be drawn down to pay benefits to the baby boomers. The 1983 payroll tax hike has generated more than $2.5 trillion that is supposed to be in the trust fund. If the trust fund actually held this amount in real assets, full Social Security benefits could be paid until at least 2037 without any changes. Unfortunately, none of the surplus revenue was saved or invested in anything. It was all spent, by the government, on wars and other government programs without making any provisions for repaying the money.

If the money is not repaid in full, with interest, it will have been stolen by the government from working Americans who paid into the fund.

Since Social Security would be fully funded until at least 2037 if the government had not used the money for other things, the only reason that politicians are advocating cuts in Social Security benefits is the fact that the government does not have the money with which to pay its debt to Social Security.
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