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To all the southern confederate flag supporters. Thank for the attention but I am already very important, incredibly intelligent, and extremely content.
Despite your southern spins, the confederate flag has always been and remains the supreme symbol of ignorance in this country. As I've stated quite clearly, it represents a people who are and will always represent the most vile, ignorant, backwards barbarians since the Neanderthals: southern racists.
This is my final post on this subject. I have already given it far more attention that it deserves. Continue your babbling.
You know, as a Yankee and a proud northerner, it certainly feels good to hold the superior position here.
Great post. Too many ignorant people in this country - glad the folks on this board are the minority in USA. Phew
It's a stupid, vile flag mainly liked by uneducated morons from the southern states who need to let go of their dreadful past.
*yawns* Did y'all say something original or that matters? If so, I apologize for missing it. I was too busy eating some of this good ol' Southern stuff being served here, by golly by gosh!
Many southerners like to say that the Confederate flag is a symbol of southern heritage and not hate. Hate to tell you, but your heritage is based on hundreds of years of enslaving people and inequality solely based on the color their skin. Maybe it's different for you all, but that's not something to be proud of.
Also, we are one country, the United States of America. The Confederate flag is, in addition to a sign of a hate, a sign of regionalism, and not of national unity. It ultimately shows that you're still bitter that the South lost the Civil War, and they were unable to secede from the United States. So, in essence, the Confederate flag in a sign of disloyalty and lack of patriotism to the country that provides you with all the freedom that you enjoy and take advantage of today.
The ignorance that you all display is the reason most Floridians, like me, do anything to disassociate ourselves with the South and the contradictory and hateful values and morals that are often held there. Ever wonder why younger people in Northern Virginia adamantly state that Northern Virginia is not part of the South? Because they are smart enough to see that this "Southern heritage" is all under the guise of hatred and intolerance.
It ultimately shows that you're still bitter that the South lost the Civil War, and they were unable to secede from the United States. So, in essence, the Confederate flag in a sign of disloyalty and lack of patriotism to the country that provides you with all the freedom that you enjoy and take advantage of today.
Would that you could read, one hopes you'd avail yourself of a journey through the last 30 pages of the thread. There are four of you on this train, who, while hanging from boxcar doors, offer nothing historically accurate, nothing factual, nothing supported.....nothing other than hateful opinion, prejudicially based, irreverently developed from an unsound education, yet comfortably held and tentatively massaged, not unlike a tumor.
But, in life, tumors exist, the dense refuse education and people tumble from boxcars every day. And the train moves on down the tracks.
I can't express it any better than Don D. and TexasReb and they do so very well but some people just will not/cannot open their minds to learning something new. This thread is very exasperating. Such small-minded folks who refuse to imagine that maybe there is another perspective out there other than the crap they learned from the victors.
Sheesh! These people only believe what they want to believe, bless their hearts. Kudos to Don and TXreb and the others for trying to open some minds, though.
Many southerners like to say that the Confederate flag is a symbol of southern heritage and not hate. Hate to tell you, but your heritage is based on hundreds of years of enslaving people and inequality solely based on the color their skin. Maybe it's different for you all, but that's not something to be proud of.
And we Southerners are eternally grateful we have folks who know little of history and likewise about the South, to enlighten us on The Truth.
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Originally Posted by miamiman
Also, we are one country, the United States of America. The Confederate flag is, in addition to a sign of a hate, a sign of regionalism, and not of national unity. It ultimately shows that you're still bitter that the South lost the Civil War, and they were unable to secede from the United States. So, in essence, the Confederate flag in a sign of disloyalty and lack of patriotism to the country that provides you with all the freedom that you enjoy and take advantage of today.
Then, by this logic, I suppose we should rid ourselves of state flags as well?
The modern misconception -- in many ways a lamentable legacy of the outcome of the WBTS -- that the United States is amorphous entity, devoid of natural diversity, would have been appalling to the Founding Fathers. The very name, United States, suggests otherwise. This country came into being by a mutual agreement between soveriegn and individual states which agreed to delegate certain specified and limited powers to a central (federal) government. This compact was not based on any great love for each other, but out of practical realization that, alone, none were strong enough, militarily or economically, to compete with those in Europe. The idea that any of the states would, upon entering the compact, mean giving up their seperate identity and retained powers (guaranteed by the 9th and 10th ammendments) was not even to be thought of.
A major reason the United States became such a great and powerful country is because -- in what today might seem an irony -- its Constitution reflected the natural first attachment and loyalty people have to local and immediate community and its traditions, customs, blood, soil, etc. What bonded people in states so different as Texas and New York, or Mississippi and Massachusetts, into a national identity and patriotism, which made them fiecely proud to be Americans, was not an abstract notion that they were "one people" first and foremost, but rather that the very purpose of the federal (common) government was to protect the right of each to be itself.
The Confederate Flag indicitive of disloyalty to the United States? As I mentioned in a previous posts, Southern men and women have always served in our nations armed forces in disporportionately higher numbers than that of any other part of the country. And the South is the most patriotic, in the traditionally "flag waving" sense.
Back in World War II, and up into Korea and even into Vietnam, it was not at all uncommon for units made up mostly of Southern boys, to use the Confederate Battle Flag, or some variation on it, as their "colors." Yeah. Just go into some VFW club in Texas or Alabama or North Carolina and tell some of those old vets who belonged to such units that it represented "disloyalty." Hee Hee
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Originally Posted by miamiman
The ignorance that you all display is the reason most Floridians, like me, do anything to disassociate ourselves with the South and the contradictory and hateful values and morals that are often held there. Ever wonder why younger people in Northern Virginia adamantly state that Northern Virginia is not part of the South? Because they are smart enough to see that this "Southern heritage" is all under the guise of hatred and intolerance.
Oh lord, the "ignorance" says he. HAHAHAHA Funny that those who so oft use that term offer nothing of their own save that tired old line about "slavery" and "segregation", yet, when pressed, seem to know very little about either the history of the institution, or the various ways the latter presented itself. A word to the wise is always sufficient though: Go back a few pages and click onto that site I once mentioned, called "Slavery in the North." It should be a good starting point...
Are you a native Floridian, or a transplant? If a native, were your parents natives? This has a lot to do with attitudes. Likewise with Northern Virginia.
The ignorance that you all display is the reason most Floridians, like me, do anything to disassociate ourselves with the South and the contradictory and hateful values and morals that are often held there. Ever wonder why younger people in Northern Virginia adamantly state that Northern Virginia is not part of the South? Because they are smart enough to see that this "Southern heritage" is all under the guise of hatred and intolerance.
Strange that throughout this thread, the vast majority of the hatred and intolerance and ignorance has been displayed not by those proud to claim Southern heritage, but by those that have a smug attitude and/or are themselves uneducated about the cause and history of the WBTS,,, as shown here...
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Originally Posted by SaintLaurent
It's a stupid, vile flag mainly liked by uneducated morons from the southern states who need to let go of their dreadful past.
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