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Old 11-12-2011, 10:15 AM
 
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It makes no sense to suggest that the biggest concentration of government workers and lobbyists will experience little impact while the rest of the country will reduce in size. If the reduction is uniform (best case scenario), then the 25-40% shrinkage (necessary for a more balanced budget) will occur in DC as well, maybe an even higher proportion.

It's interesting though. People will always say it's different where they live. Even here in Raleigh, after 2008 people denied it would spread out to us. After all, they say, we have Research Triangle Park. Of course, it's happening here as well. Sometimes it sucks to be right so often.
No, its not because I'm from here, its because I know how powerful this machine is from working for, with, and related to those who climbed the ranks. Like I said DC is not immune to economic downturns but you can bet your bottom dollar if big cuts come they will not fall on the powerful. Keep in mind its not all about workers, lobbyist but the biggy of them all and that is the military and everything that goes with it.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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That house is straining the environment because it's so big.
Take these on, why don't you.

The 10 Largest Homes In America
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Right. But he can support policies and candidates that will help the middle class, even if he has a big house.
However, he recently said that he's not among the 1%. I think that is what is being contested.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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However, he recently said that he's not among the 1%. I think that is what is being contested.
He's a part of the country who believes that the wealthiest shouldn't get all of the breaks and call all the shots. Obviously, he sides with the 99% movement. He's not calling for deregulation, and more tax cuts for the richest citizens.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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What is unbelievable is that you aren't able to see that he runs his mouth about sharing wealth, and doesn't bother to share his OWN. He advocates socialism....but for OTHER people,..not himself.

If this guy...and all of the other loud mouthed hollywooders were people of conviction, then they would practice what they preach. They are saying thaqt corporate America should change their ways and back off on going for big profits...that corporate America should lower prices. Well...How about if Alec Baldwin lowers his demands per movie or tv episode? How about Michael moore not charge as much to the studios so his films could be viewed for $1.00 per ticket??

I am sick of people like moore coming off with this holier than thou attitude when they never volunteer to do what THEY CLAIM to believe is the right thing to do, and share THEIR wealth.

You will NEVER see that happen. This guy has caraved a niche with the lower class people who actually believe he is sincere. Like you...they don't see the utter HYPOCRISY that people like moore spew. It's his way of staying in the public eye...so he can KEEP that big mansion in the picture...that's all it is. And people like you eat it with a spoon.
Who does Michael Moore take money from, investors, tax payers via bailouts, who? Do you think Michael pays people who work for him more than minimum wage and offers them decent benefits?
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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No, its not because I'm from here, its because I know how powerful this machine is from working for, with, and related to those who climbed the ranks. Like I said DC is not immune to economic downturns but you can bet your bottom dollar if big cuts come they will not fall on the powerful. Keep in mind its not all about workers, lobbyist but the biggy of them all and that is the military and everything that goes with it.
Right but military cuts are going to happen regardless of who wins the presidency. A lot of defense contractors are going to be cutting back staff. Cuts don't have to fall on the powerful to hurt NoVA. Many of NoVA's residents are not the elite. They're just highly leveraged folks who have overpaid for their homes (assuming they bought at around 2000-present) and are basically screwed once the machine slowly (or quickly) unwinds.

DC is too highly leveraged against FedGov, Inc. and all signs point to massive layoffs in industries relying on FedGov, Inc. But, I have a feeling that we're not going to convince each other so let's get back to MM's house.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:22 AM
 
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Just more tripe from some that do not understand that Michael Moore never needed a bail out due to fraudulent business practices that adversely affected the American people. Moore has never claimed to be anti-captitalism, so what is the phony outrage against him about...other than BS propaganda that is?

BTW...anyone that defines "Capitalism" by how Wall Street big banks/banksters and Corporate America conducts their coruupt and seedy business practices, has the I.Q. of a flea.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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He's a part of the country who believes that the wealthiest shouldn't get all of the breaks and call all the shots. Obviously, he sides with the 99% movement. He's not calling for deregulation, and more tax cuts for the richest citizens.
He waffles between wanting to end capitalism and wanting to reform it, depending on the audience he's speaking to. Individuals like him like to hit the ground running in a post-capitalist utopia so he can maintain his lavish lifestyle while the victims of socialism are required to suffer. MM wants to have the energy hog house and his precious guns while the rest of the people have to be rationed on their property and their guns confiscated.

MM is the 1% who likes to play both sides.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:23 AM
 
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Michael Moore Capitalism is Anti Christian - YouTube

If what he is saying is true, atheist neo-progressives should love capitalism.
No, the atheist neo-progressives care more about people.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:25 AM
 
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If they say they're not a part of the 1% and they actually are, yeah they're a hypocrite.

I guess MM hasn't produced a "documentary" relating to the environment, so he gets a pass on his energy hog home.
Did I miss a quote from Michael Moore in which he states that he is "not part of the 1%?"
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