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Old 11-22-2011, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Right - but when we say "Hey, you're breaking the law, but I agree with you, so it's okay." That's not a great a thing.

They weren't breaking the law, thats the point.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:00 PM
 
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They weren't breaking the law, thats the point.
Were they demanded to disperse? Yes, they were.

Did they follow orders? No, they didn't. In fact they locked arms and said "come and get some."

Nobody is sympathetic to your/their cause. You know why? Because they paid for their own education and $500/year would be a god-send.

They look like socialist gimme, gimme loons.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Somebody did some great photo shopping there. The second picture there didn't include that picture on the original when I saw it. I wonder about that.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Were they demanded to disperse? Yes, they were.

Did they follow orders? No, they didn't. In fact they locked arms and said "come and get some."

Nobody is sympathetic to your/their cause. You know why? Because they paid for their own education and $500/year would be a god-send.

They look like socialist gimme, gimme loons.

The police can tell me to move all day long, if I'm not breaking the law, they can't make me do move.

Y'all act as if the police are incapable of being wrong.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:07 PM
 
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They weren't breaking the law, thats the point.
Except that they were breaking the law. You may not like the law, but it is still the law.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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The police can tell me to move all day long, if I'm not breaking the law, they can't make me do move.

Y'all act as if the police are incapable of being wrong.
That's where the rubber meets the road. Are you willing to get arrested and take your chances? That's expensive and if you're wrong you're fully liable.

I act as though the police are right and I'll do whatever I can within their request. If you want to claim you know better do so at your own peril.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If they are breaking the law, then you arrest them.

Did they resist arrest, no.

If they couldn't be arrested, because they weren't breaking the law, then the police needed to shut the hell up.

When did we get so trusting of authority?
People arguing what you are doing always make me wonder if protesters are doing something and are ordered by the police to stop they are just doing as they please and to hell with the police. They were told to get up off the walkway which belongs to the state as does the rest of the school and they refused and locked arms.

Which would have been police brutality? Jerking them apart one at a time and carrying them away, one at a time or getting them apart with the spray? I say that any time you don't have to use force you did the right thing. I guess you just can't see that what they did was too much like any group of protesters blocking the public street since it wasn't an auto traffic way.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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People arguing what you are doing always make me wonder if protesters are doing something and are ordered by the police to stop they are just doing as they please and to hell with the police. They were told to get up off the walkway which belongs to the state as does the rest of the school and they refused and locked arms.

Which would have been police brutality? Jerking them apart one at a time and carrying them away, one at a time or getting them apart with the spray? I say that any time you don't have to use force you did the right thing. I guess you just can't see that what they did was too much like any group of protesters blocking the public street since it wasn't an auto traffic way.
State land, and they have every right to be there.

It truly is a shame that so many think its ok for police to pepper spray kids for no reason, just sitting there. Not breaking a law, not hurting anyone, just annoying the dean.

Yeah, real bad kids.

Damned shame, this used to be a country where we didn't trust authority.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:28 PM
 
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State land, and they have every right to be there.

It truly is a shame that so many think its ok for police to pepper spray kids for no reason, just sitting there. Not breaking a law, not hurting anyone, just annoying the dean.

Yeah, real bad kids.

Damned shame, this used to be a country where we didn't trust authority.
The only people that don't trust authority are the ones who think everything is fair game and everyone wins. All liberal policies that are nonsense.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:42 PM
 
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State land, and they have every right to be there.

It truly is a shame that so many think its ok for police to pepper spray kids for no reason, just sitting there. Not breaking a law, not hurting anyone, just annoying the dean.

Yeah, real bad kids.

Damned shame, this used to be a country where we didn't trust authority.
Now lets add some reality to your rant. As far as laws broken there is at the minimum;
Failure to obey the lawful order of a peace officer. Obstruction of justice. Interfering with a police officer in the performance of his duties. Criminal trespass (State property or not they failed to disperse when ordered to do so). Resisting arrest (Don't try and dispute this with some emotion laden crap. Any first year DA could make that charge stick based on their actions).

Yeah, great kids. They are perfectly capable of performing their protest without breaking the law. Rather than doing that they chose to act in such a manner as to essentially guarantee a confrontation with the police. They got what they wanted.

As far as not trusting authority goes I've seen few expansions of government scope and power discussed on this board that you have not supported.
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