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Old 11-29-2011, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Unions are spending hundreds of millions to retire Walker because their way of life is ending.
Do you have a source to verify the amount you claim is being spent?

I do know Walker has spent over 2 million in propaganda ads. Apparently the facts do not speak for themselves or Walker.

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Walker spent over 2 million on ads.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Some folks seem to rejoice at the death of union jobs. Obviously history wasn't their strong suit or they would know that it was union jobs that created the middle class in this country so, in effect, they are rejoicing at the death of the middle class. They will continue their rejoicing until they find that the bell tolls for them too.
Let's not forget that unionization is how we got the weekend.

Let's look at what happens when unionized jobs disappear:



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Old 11-29-2011, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Cherry picking? you always know there is something up when they will only cite specific numbers for what they a trying to discredit.

Table 3. Civilian labor force and unemployment by state and selected area, seasonally adjusted
Even with your data, Walker has not produced even one of the 250 thousand jobs he promised during his campaign.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Noticed that in the address of the link it said "opinion."

Opinion does not equal facts.
In the right wing world, opinions are facts, as long as they are presented to them by their political and media leaders.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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Jobs are jobs.
Oh, now jobs are jobs? What were you lefties hollering about when it was posted that Texas lead the nation in job creation? Wasn't it something like, "those jobs are worthless, they are minimum wage jobs!"? Wasn't it something like that? You guys are hilarious!
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Oh, now jobs are jobs? What were you lefties hollering about when it was posted that Texas lead the nation in job creation? Wasn't it something like, "those jobs are worthless, they are minimum wage jobs!"? Wasn't it something like that? You guys are hilarious!
And you were offended by those arguments, only to use them later.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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John Nichols: Under Walker, Wisconsin is No. 1 job loser


No wonder is spending millions on ads to fend off the growing popularity of his being recalled. He's toast.
the only reason the libs want to recall Walker is because their guy lost, and they are throwing a hissy fit.

Wisconsin's unemployment figures are lower then Illinois.

The latest preliminary estimates show a net gain of 12,900 private-sector jobs from May to June, representing the largest one-month gain of private sector jobs since September 2003. The number of manufacturing jobs grew by 800 over the month, bringing the industry total to 14,100 jobs created this year.

http://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsrel...june_state.pdf


Wisconsin is not Illinois. WI unemployment 7% IL is 10%
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:43 AM
 
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John Nichols: Under Walker, Wisconsin is No. 1 job loser


No wonder is spending millions on ads to fend off the growing popularity of his being recalled. He's toast.
Gross statistical abuse from a clearly biased source.

A whole bunch of citing a month here or there....no adjustment for seasonality cited etc. etc. etc. A faux news article using a lot of smoke and handwaving and not any actual analysis.

The only people falling for tripe like this are partisan loyalists and the mentally feeble.

Really, why not just post a clear assessment showing seasonally adjust job changes directly from the BLS showing each state?
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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And you were offended by those arguments, only to use them later.
I didn't use anything, you guys did. Can you say Flip Flopping Hypocrites? If not, I can say it for you.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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2011 Jun
labor force - 3066358

employment - 2831826

unemployment -
234532

unemployment rate -
7.6

2011 Jul
labor force - 3058079

employment - 2818972

unemployment - 239107

unemployment rate - 7.8


2011 Aug

labor force - 3055819

employment - 2815853

unemployment - 239966

unemployment rate - 7.9


2011 Sep
labor force - 3057796

employment - 2819199

unemployment - 238597

unemployment rate - 7.8


2011 Oct
labor force - 3056640(P)

employment - 2822605(P)

unemployment - 234035(P)

unemployment rate - 7.7(P)


http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?la+55

Dude gave you the "not seasonally adjusted" numbers...
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