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Old 12-16-2011, 05:22 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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The investigation started summer of 2008.
Unfortunately, I don't think it matters how often this is pointed out. It HAS to be President Obama's fault, regardless of the FACTS.
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:36 PM
 
Location: #
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Please know, I know NOTHING of the Law...and I have been reminded of this here..lol.. So, I looked up Writ of Mandamus..in the Lectric Law Library and on Wikkipedia (so I could understand the language.) Having read the meaning I ask this question... Wouldn't Arizona have standing to appear before the SCOTUS and ask for the same Writ against the Executive Branch to enforce the laws regarding immigration?
The current President has been sidestepping immigration since he first came into office. I don't need to document that here.. it has been discussed endlessly..So I ask again..Wouldn't the state of Arizona have grounds to ask for a Writ of Mandamus before the SCOTUS against Barak Obama?
There's precedent for ignoring immigration laws.

Just ask Bush.
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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There's precedent for ignoring immigration laws.

Just ask Bush.
Amen to that.
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Old 12-16-2011, 06:46 PM
 
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to add to joe's woes he's also in the middle of being sued for illegally arresting some newspaper publishers

Newspaper Wins Judges' Sympathies in Arpaio Suit

the 400+ ignored sex crimes, the fed investigation report and this lawsuit..... not the week to be joe arpaio.
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Unfortunately, I don't think it matters how often this is pointed out. It HAS to be President Obama's fault, regardless of the FACTS.
Yes, as if Joe payback is high on Obamas list of priorities. Right between Iran and health care right. lol It's just like the Joe lovers to think he's that important to everyone.
"Hey, I know we have a debt crisis right now but lets get back onto that Joe issue, I really have it in for that guy in Arizona." One could only wish they were that important to the president.
This crap with Joe has been going on for a long long time. Even though this started in 2008 there was plenty of crap before this one. He's made a living on the back of controversial.
He sucks up the attention like a sponge.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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A Democrat witch hunt is all this is.
thank you, of course it is...

Nita
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Old 12-17-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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A Democrat witch hunt is all this is.
Yeah, let's not let the fact that the 2008 investigation was started by Republicans in AZ.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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All it takes to be a right wing hero is trampling on 4th amendment rights and calling Obama's birth certificate fake. Such a low standard.
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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From Holder? The racist POGarbage who should be sitting in a cell behind bars? As IF this guy is objective, fair or nonpolitical.

Of course holder would find that against Joe. After all, this is the guy suing multiple states for their immigration laws.
Uh...you do know, don't you, that the Attorney General did not conduct this investigation himself, nor did he write its conclusions.
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The Constitution of the United States does not grant us rights as citizens. Our rights are presumed to come directly from the Creator (Declaration of Independence) and the Constitution merely codifies those rights into law. It protects our rights, it does not grant them.

In this country, we take the phrase "all men are created equal" seriously and have written into law protections designed to enforce that doctrine. Every person within the jurisdiction of the United States is guaranteed the equal protection of the law, whether they are citizens or not. Nobody is either above, or below, the law and that's as it should be IF we hold "these truths to be self-evident." Either the Constitution contains enforceable protections for all, or it is meaningless. If one man's rights are trampled upon, so are every man's.

When we find a police organization engaging in a pattern of willful and deliberate discrimination against anyone in the United States it should concern us, no matter how we "feel" about the targets of that discrimination. We are nation based upon equality before the law, not a nation based upon the emotional moment. Even those who have broken the law still have rights as human beings that we should not, cannot ignore without imperiling our own liberties. Once we accept the premise that some are not as human as others and, hence, not as deserving of the equal protection of the Constitution, we effectively end our great experiment in individual liberty and revert to the kind of tyranny our forefathers fought against. Worse, when we allow our citizens to be swept up into the ever-widening dragnet which collects illegals and prevent the exercising of their Constitutional privileges, we make that Constitution a laughing stock. We, in fact, make ourselves "Un-American."

The Justice Department's Civil Rights division report on the activities of the ever popular Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Maricopa County Sheriff's Department in Arizona is a damning indictment of the kind of egregious, deliberate, discriminatory law enforcement that the Constitution was written to prevent. Even Sheriff Joe cannot be allowed to run roughshod over the rights of our citizens or anyone within his jurisdiction. Regardless of his intent, he is sworn to uphold the law and the Constitutions of the United States and Arizona. To allow him to do any less than just that would be a failure on our part of dreadful proportions and would establish a precedent that the Constitution can be ignored when the purpose is "right." We, as free citizens, should not allow that to happen. In fact, if we do, we make ourselves and our children vulnerable to the same kind of practices whenever some other hot button, emotional issue comes up. The law is color-blind and it should remain that way.
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