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Old 01-11-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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This law does not stop women from choosing abortion. Why should they be scared of seeing what they are doing
Why not just let the woman and her doctor decide what is needed?
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I'd bet my next paycheck that the most vociferous supporters of abortion are those who have had one. Human psychology dictates that a person seek absolution of his/her actions, and ridiculing those who see human life as a worthy endeavor is one of the ways the pro-abortioners compensate for their own personal irresponsibility.

Considering almost half of all abortion seekers have had more than one abortion, I don't think we can ever expect the pro-abortioners to put forth a pro-life argument because it simply does not jive with their own actions.
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I think this statement is quite offensive. For what it's worth I have never had an unplanned pregnancy, nor have I had an abortion. That is quite irrelevant to the discussion and my stance.
Ditto, Zim. This guy can't get pregnant and never could.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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So when i use yoru argument im wrong but whne you use the same argument you are right.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Murika
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Why does government need to intrude into the patient-doctor relationship? If a doctor or the patient decides that viewing an ultrasound image is necessary, then let them make that decision themselves.

Last time I checked, government had no right to make me watch anything. Government can mandate that material is made available, but that's where it ends.

Laws such as this are purely un-American. Shame on Texas.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why does government need to intrude into the patient-doctor relationship? If a doctor or the patient decides that viewing an ultrasound image is necessary, then let them make that decision themselves.

Last time I checked, government had no right to make me watch anything. Government can mandate that material is made available, but that's where it ends.

Laws such as this are purely un-American. Shame on Texas.
I don't particularly like this law, but other states are enacting similar laws.

Florida for one...

Scott signs two more abortion bills into law | Florida Independent

Funny how a Floridian poster was going on an anti-Texas tirade earlier in the thread. Apparently he must think Florida is a very backwards place too.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Murika
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I don't particularly like this law, but other states are enacting similar laws.

Florida for one...

Scott signs two more abortion bills into law | Florida Independent

Funny how a Floridian poster was going on an anti-Texas tirade earlier in the thread. Apparently he must think Florida is a very backwards place too.
Agreed, but this thread is about Texas - hence, I am simply trying to stay on topic.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Why not just let the woman and her doctor decide what is needed?
How does the law stop a woman and a doctor from making the choice?
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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I was a bit confused also. So when you use the argument its a womans choice and her body you are correct, but when i use the argument I'm wrong? You seem offended i was using this argument
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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With the entire country concerned about the high cost of health care, has anybody addressed who is going to PAY for the implementation of this law? It has to be considered; this is not going to be cheap, and it certainly isn't going to be paid for by women who don't want or need it (and often can't afford it).
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:56 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Why not just let the woman and her doctor decide what is needed?
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How does the law stop a woman and a doctor from making the choice?
What I was referring to is the decision about whether a sonogram is needed.
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