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it does not stop a woman from getting an abortion it does not stop the doctor from performing an abortion it does allow the patient to see what the procedure will effect. The law in no way stops the woman from choosing.
Pure BS. Every woman already knows this. You just want to punish her for getting pregnant. BTW, are YOU, personally, willing to pay for the sonogram? I think it is highly unfair to expect the pregnant woman to pay and, as a taxpayer, I don't think we should waste tax money on an unnecessary procedure, so I'm asking you to pay for it since you seem to think there is some positive value in doing it.
How in God's name can a coat hanger cause an abortion? How does it get through the cervix and mucus plug??
how in god's name indeed. by sheer force. the thought is horrid isn't it? yet when abortion is not available women will go to extremes to not carry out an unplanned pregnancy. abortion must stay legal and safe.
Pure BS. Every woman already knows this. You just want to punish her for getting pregnant. BTW, are YOU, personally, willing to pay for the sonogram? I think it is highly unfair to expect the pregnant woman to pay and, as a taxpayer, I don't think we should waste tax money on an unnecessary procedure, so I'm asking you to pay for it since you seem to think there is some positive value in doing it.
She did not lose her job b/c she was pregnant. She had to take time off and the job said they would hold her position. That's what is required by law. If she chose to take time off, that was her doing, she was not forced out of her job due to pregnancy.
Sure, lots of people's parents have died, but most of these who are having abortions DO have living parents, friends and they ALL have a baby daddy.
There is always a baby daddy, although as someone pointed out with the Iraq combatants, he may not be alive. He also may not be remotely interested in being involved in the pregnancy. Men are adults, too, with their own choices. The guy may choose to look the other way, literally.
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I agree with you that this law is not something the state should be doing, but I disagree with the slippery slope logic.
The Florida legislation was signed into law. I'm not sure of the status of it in the court's system (obviously it was challenged, I can say this without looking it up).
What's really interesting is that the original judge ruled against the Texas law on First Amendment grounds claiming that it violated doctors' and patients' rights to free speech, not based on anything relating to medical procedure itself.
So you're saying the slippery slope is that this law will encourage other states to do the same, if it is upheld?
you could apply that same thought to a belief in god. do you insist on a visual about faith? women do KNOW what it is to be pregnant, we do not need visual aids.
The familiar symbol of illegal abortion is the infamous “coat hanger” — which may be the symbol, but is in no way a myth. In my years in New York, several women arrived with a hanger still in place. Whoever put it in — perhaps the patient herself — found it trapped in the cervix and could not remove it. . . . Almost any implement you can imagine had been and was used to start an abortion — darning needles, crochet hooks, cut-glass salt shakers, soda bottles, sometimes intact, sometimes with the top broken off.
With the mod's forbearance, four sentences for those who don't want to face reality. Read the link for more horror.
OMG You are so good at doing research, why don't you find out how it is ILLEGAL to fire someone due to pregnancy status. If you have to take time off, you need to arrange it with your employer, not just not show up. THAT is what might get you fired, not b/c you are pregnant.
In the real world, people get fired illegally all of the time. How does that happen? They site a legal reason when they fire you. Missing too much work, work no longer up to standards, etc. They are not going to say, you are too old, you are too fat, or you are pregnant. Now, you hire a lawyer and try to PROVE IT.
I WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN PREGNANT IF I DID NOT HAVE A HUSBAND! I also do not have my parents and friends to take care of me as we relocated cross-country right before I got pregnant. It can be done.
And if something had happened to your husband, who would have paid your bills and taken care of you when you were sick during your pregnancy? You said you couldn't work. So what would you have done? Asked your parents for help perhaps? Asked your Mom or one of your friends to come stay with you?
I do not live in Andrealand or fantasyland or whatever other rude comment you want to make. I live on planet Earth, where people are supposed to take responsibility for their actions.
And when a woman who experiences a BC failure decides that aborting is her best option, she is ALSO taking responsibility.
{BTW, several people here have commented on your naivete'. Your comments make it obvious.}
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