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Old 01-12-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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At some point. The key is that they saw the error of their ways. The British Empire abolished slavery in 1833, and then was a leader in stamping out slavery across the seas. The Confederacy....not so much.
Not exactly true. It is easy to become moralisitic when there is no longer any profit in it. It is like the northern states when they abolished slavery. It was only because it was no longer a money-maker.

For northern industrialists, it was easier to hire and fire "free workers" at will and then toss them out into the street when they got sick, old, injured, etc. Also, keep them bound to the "company store" for their period of employment. On a related tangent, this is one reason why "labor unions" have always been MUCH for popular in the North than the South.

Anyway, make no mistake. Northern interests made profit off slavery long after it was abolished up there (which was never done at any rate in a way as to cause northern slave owners any financial hardship!). Here again are some links:

Northern Emancipation

Northern Profits from Slavery
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: 53179
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In a few days several states will have a state holiday honoring our beloved Confederate leaders.I just want to thank the people of the South for keeping the honor of these heroes alive.I hope all true southerners will take a child niece or nephew to a battlefield site to keep this great tradition alive,always
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Confederate Memorial Day, also known as Confederate Decoration Day (Tennessee) and Confederate Heroes Day (Texas), is an official holiday and/or observance day in parts of the U.S. South as a day to honor those who died fighting for the Confederate States of America during the American Civil War. Nine states officially observe Confederate Memorial Day: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.[1]
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StateDateRemarksAlabamaFourth Monday in April [SIZE=2][2][/SIZE]The surrender of Confederate General Joseph E. Johnston to Union General William Sherman on April 26, 1865.ArkansasThird Monday in January [SIZE=2][3][/SIZE]Robert E. Lee's birthday (state holiday combined with Martin Luther King, Jr. Day).FloridaApril 26 [SIZE=2][4][/SIZE][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE]See remarks at Alabama.GeorgiaApril 26 [SIZE=2][6][/SIZE]See remarks at Alabama.KentuckyJune 3 [SIZE=2][7][/SIZE]Jefferson Davis's birthday.LouisianaJune 3 [SIZE=2][6][/SIZE][SIZE=2][8][/SIZE]Jefferson Davis's birthday. Set by state law, Louisiana Revised Statues 1:55MarylandFirst Saturday of JuneMississippiLast Monday in April [SIZE=2][9][/SIZE]See remarks at Alabama.North CarolinaMay 10 [SIZE=2][6][/SIZE]The death of Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson in 1863 and the capture of Confederate president Jefferson Davis in 1865.PennsylvaniaSecond Saturday in MayObserved by the Pennsylvania Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.South CarolinaMay 10 [SIZE=2][10][/SIZE]See remarks at North Carolina.TennesseeJune 3 [SIZE=2][6][/SIZE]Jefferson Davis's birthday.TexasJanuary 19 [SIZE=2][6][/SIZE]Confederate Heroes Day. In 1973, the Texas legislature combined the previously official state holidays of Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis' birthdays into a single "Confederate Heroes Day" to honor all who had served the Southern Cause. In some years, this date may coincide with Martin Luther King, Jr. Day. State offices are partially staffed in recognition of this day.TexasApril 26 [SIZE=2][6][/SIZE]Confederate Memorial Day. Texas' official holiday is named Confederate Heroes Day and is celebrated on January 19. However, many local communities and Southern historical organizations within the state also observe a separate "Confederate Memorial Day" on April 26.VirginiaLast Monday in May [SIZE=2][6][/SIZE]Same as Memorial Day.[edit] References
  1. ^ Confederate Memorial Day.
  2. ^ Alabama State Code.
  3. ^ Arkansas Secretary of State Charlie Daniels.
  4. ^ [1] "The 2010 Florida Statutes(including Special Session A)", Retrieved 2011-07-25
  5. ^ City Data.
  6. ^ a b c d e f g Department of Veterans Affairs.
  7. ^ WorldWeb.
  8. ^ http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=74097
  9. ^ Mississippi Secretary of State.
  10. ^ South Carolina Code.
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At my sons school MLK and LEE share holiday..
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: chattanooga
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People who glorify the Confederacy are an embarrassment to the United States of America. No matter how you try to spin, they were traitors. All you have to do is look at the history of the some of the posters in here to know that they are RACIST. Celebrating the this is like having Apartheid day in South Africa or black people celebrating Nat Turner's rebellion or OJ's acquittal. So far we have someone who thinks that slaves were happy, blacks are not natural born citizens and people that post in every race baiting thread that is ever posted just to once again attempt to prove that "the blacks" are horrible people. As disgusting as that is, I find comfort in the truth, which is that anyone sitting on that side of the fence or in that delusional place in their mind where we go back to the original version of the constition and whites are superior is a straight-up ignorant, loser. We have made enough progress that none of this BS really matters - you have nothing but your opionions and your hatred. What a miserable state of being.
O.J Simpson Not Guilty Verdict - White People and Black People Reactions - YouTube (http://youtu.be/WVaAEy4SXCk - broken link) you mean like these black people celebratimg
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: 53179
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it is sort of like people in the midwest celebrating their weird german and scandinavian things. makes no sense to me, but then, i'm not from there.

OR St.patricks day..Whats the point...?
Why celebrate anything at all.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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At my sons school MLK and LEE share holiday..
It's the same here in arkansas.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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OR St.patricks day..Whats the point...?
Why celebrate anything at all.
It has something to do with culture. You know, those things that bind people together and remind them they are one people.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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The best part of this part of this thread is that so many people here are willing to take the words of Harriet Beecher Stowe about how evil slave owners were. Mrs. Stowe is the woman that Abe Lincoln referred to as the "Little lady that started our war". I think that some slavers were evil enough to use whips or let their overseers do so. However, slave owners too often treated their slaves as well as they would their breed stock. I don't know many cattlemen who would beat their best bulls with boards and think that most of those slave owners felt the same way. When field hands were worth over $1500, which was a lot more than it is today, they wouldn't really punish them as so many people say.

You do know that Uncle Tom's Cabin told the story the way most of you want to think it was?
Yes.....slaves were treated well by their owners because they were things of great value.

Got it.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Yay! a holiday for losers and traitors! Never heard of it here in Florida but then again Florida isn't really "southern".

Yeah and the Pope really isn't Catholic.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:44 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Yay! a holiday for losers and traitors! Never heard of it here in Florida but then again Florida isn't really "southern".
Not by a longshot it isn't.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:49 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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This makes no sense, it is like celebrating a holiday for Benedict Arnold or the Rosenbergs.
Benedict arnold was true to the british king george. The rosenbergs were true to marx. One man's traitor is another man's patriot.
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