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Old 01-17-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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It is Pathetic the Divide they want in this country to further their own gains!
it's pathetic how people believe anything they read on the internet and never quetion it. Where is the Holder quote?

 
Old 01-17-2012, 12:48 PM
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Because of criminal democrat organizations like Acorn that bus the same load of homeless people from polling place to polling place to vote democrat in the name of Adolf Hitler, Mickey Mouse, and Tony Romo.
I see. Lacking actual evidence of voter fraud, simply fabricate something.
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Why is it that democrats are so frothy-mouthed at any attempt to curtail vote fraud?
Curtailing voter fraud (a problem that mostly exists in the minds of right wingers) is fine. But that's not what's being done. What is being done is a deliberate attempt by Republicans to stop poor people, students, and minorities from casting ballots. The GOP is simply expanding its voter disenfranchisement toolkit. They thought that sending too few voting machines (or worse, no functioning machines at all) to precincts frequented by minorities, poor people, and students would discourage enough people from casting ballots, but that didn't work out so well, so now they have to ramp it up and find new ways to discourage people who vote (D) from casting ballots, the latest idea being to require photo ID (and then instructing DMV employees not to tell people that they can get an ID for free).

If you can only win an election by deliberately disenfranchising legitimate voters, maybe it's time to re-evaluate your policies and candidates.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Do you agree with holder on this or is this more racial talk to further put America back?


Personally I think holder should step down.
Is it possible to get an actual quote or clip of the speech. I simply can't go by an opinion piece with no references linked.

I'll say this the photo of Holder in the linked article is not a good one though.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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it's pathetic how people believe anything they read on the internet and never quetion it. Where is the Holder quote?
I just asked that same question. It's bizarre really.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Republic of Texas
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They thought that sending too few voting machines (or worse, no functioning machines at all) to precincts frequented by minorities, poor people, and students would discourage enough people from casting ballots, but that didn't work out so well, so now they have to ramp it up and find new ways to discourage people who vote (D) from casting ballots, the latest idea being to require photo ID (and then instructing DMV employees not to tell people that they can get an ID for free).
Proof?
 
Old 01-17-2012, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Care to show us the quote where he said that?
Why would those people use quotation marks when writing about what Holder said unless they were quoting? Here is an example of what I am saying.

Holder categorized the voter ID law as "racially discriminatory" and part of "overt and subtle forms of discrimination" that "remain all too common."

This paragraph is out of the source the OP provided for all of us to read. Now did you read it or do you just not know what those two sets of lines that make up quotation indicators mean?
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Let me summarize.

US DOJ is trying to overturn the will of the people.

The legislature is an elected body put there by a majority of voters to pass laws in their best interest.

Ditto Arizona and illegal immigration.

Ditto California and prop 8.
Sorry, Jim Crow is dead.

Even if it were "the will of the people," the people do not have the right to stop legitimate voters from voting or to place stumbling blocks in the way of voters trying to vote. That's why we amended the constitution to bar poll taxes.

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I'm not OP but I'll answer anyway.

Because of criminal democrat organizations like Acorn that bus the same load of homeless people from polling place to polling place to vote democrat in the name of Adolf Hitler, Mickey Mouse, and Tony Romo.

Why is it that democrats are so frothy-mouthed at any attempt to curtail vote fraud?

I proposed in another thread that we do as the Iraqis do and stain your finger purple after you vote. It comes off eventually, but not the same day you vote. Any of you sanctimonious guardians of voting rights got a problem with that?
Whenever there are voter registration drives there are faulty voters registered. However, there is not a single example of faulty ACORN registered voters showing up to vote on election day.

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The Myth of Voter Fraud

It has been a record year for new legislation designed to make it harder for Democrats to vote — 19 laws and two executive actions in 14 states dominated by Republicans, according to a new study by the Brennan Center for Justice. As a result, more than five million eligible voters will have a harder time participating in the 2012 election.

Of course the Republicans passing these laws never acknowledge their real purpose, which is to turn away from the polls people who are more likely to vote Democratic, particularly the young, the poor, the elderly and minorities. They insist that laws requiring government identification cards to vote are only to protect the sanctity of the ballot from unscrupulous voters. Cutting back on early voting, which has been popular among working people who often cannot afford to take off from their jobs on Election Day, will save money, they claim.

None of these explanations are true. There is almost no voting fraud in America. And none of the lawmakers who claim there is have ever been able to document any but the most isolated cases. The only reason Republicans are passing these laws is to give themselves a political edge by suppressing Democratic votes.
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In Kansas, the secretary of state, Kris Kobach (who also wrote Arizona’s notorious anti-immigrant law), pushed for an ID law on the basis of a list of 221 reported instances of voter fraud in Kansas since 1997. Even if that were true, it would be an infinitesimal percentage of the votes cast during that period, but it is not true.

When The Wichita Eagle looked into the local cases on the list, the newspaper found that almost all were honest mistakes: a parent trying to vote for a student away at college, or signatures on mail-in ballots that didn’t precisely match those on file. In one case of supposed “fraud,” a confused non-citizen was asked at the motor vehicles bureau whether she wanted to fill out a voter registration form, and did so not realizing she was ineligible to vote.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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Yeah, but just because "the people" have a "will" doesn't mean what they seek to do is constitutional.

That's why we live in a Republic, and not a Democracy.
Fine - prove voter ID is unconstitutional.

No one is restricted access to vote.

Is someone voting for a dead person constitutional? Just curious...
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Republic of Texas
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Whenever there are voter registration drives there are faulty voters registered. However, there is not a single example of faulty ACORN registered voters showing up to vote on election day.
I guess you're right. Since we cannot produce bona fide video evidence and signed affadavits that vote fraud has taken place, it means it is a total myth and doesn't happen.

Still holding out hope that unicorns are real though.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:03 PM
 
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Typical view of white racists, that anything good for blacks is bad for whites, anything that protects blacks punishes whites. It's an age-old fear, and you can see it here where Holder's inoffensive words were turned into meaning "he's going to rob us whites!"

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