Govt subsidized light bulb fifty bucks a pop (healthcare, revolution, money)

[KUchief25]

Originally Posted by Speleothem

Yeah, nuthin' to worry about...



...just evacuate.

Yep run for the hills.

[KUchief25]

Originally Posted by LauraC

For that price they should come to my home and screw it in.

If you all up the local energy company they will come out and give you a green over. My wife did and they put in a bunch of the curly cues and actually the HAD to screw em in because if they didn't and we dropped one while they were there they said they could get in trouble. LOL. We're too stupid to screw in a lightbulb to the greenies.

I've had to replace four of the six they put in already. I guess they were the ones in the test phase for that lasting 3 years mantra or whatever it is they put out.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by KUchief25

The "life span" claims are BS. I've had to replace many of the curley cues I put in last year.

Interesting, but what does that have to do with LEDs?

[Roadking2003]

The issue isn't which bulbs are better. The issue is that we don't need government telling us which bulbs are better and forcing us to use the bulbs that government tells us are better.

The market is quite capable of leading consumers to the most efficient bulbs. No government needed.

[fibonacci]

Maybe it's because China, whom currently has a stranglehold on rare earth metal production, has drastically cut down on the amount it exports.

U.S., EU, Japan take on China at WTO over rare earths | Reuters

But Alas, this is a thread started by KU, so we should've expected the 1st post to be devoid of all the facts anyway.

[BigJon3475]

Total savings with the LED bulb (After 10 years 11 months 15 days):

$10,393.46

Incandescent / halogen bulb LED bulb Cost of each bulbs $0.79 $50.00
Wattage 60 Watt 10 Watt
Number of bulbs to be replaced 40 bulbs -
Electricity cost per year
($0.12kWh) $1,051.20/year $175.20/year Bulb Lifespan
(Continuous use) 1,500 hours 40,000 hours
Actual lifespan
(when used for 10 hours/day) 4 months 28 days 10 years 11 months 15 days
No. of times a incandescent / halogen bulb to be replaced during the LED bulb's lifetime 1040 times
(26 times per bulbs) -
Total annual cost
(Cost of bulb(s) replaced in a year + Electricity in a year) $1128.09/year $175.20/year

LEDwaves.com: LED Bulb Savings Calculator

[BigJon3475]

Originally Posted by LauraC

For that price they should come to my home and screw it in.

Why? You have to count the total savings in terms of power usage and lifespan.

It's, without a doubt, cheaper to have $50 light bulbs (40 of them) that last 30,000 - 40,000 hours as opposed to incandescents that last 1,500 hours and use 60 watts.

It comes out to a $10,000 savings over a decade, do the math.

[bnepler]

Does the one bulb light up the entire house and last 50 years? If it does, I'll take just one please!

[Wayneb]

You don't have to buy the L prize bulb if you want a good LED, Philips other LED 60 watt equivalent bulb sells for $24.95 at my local home Depot, it does use 2.5 more watts and it is only 800 lumen.

I have my whole house using LED lights now, I tried dimmable CFLs and they are not that cheap and they don't last that long anyway, I was paying about $12 each for dimmable CFLs and some failed in as little as 2 weeks. LED bulbs that are designed to be dimmed seem to last much longer than CFLS in my experience. Incandescents or halogens dim better but they use a lot more power and don't last long enough.

[Hot_Handz]

I came home today and my wife was at the computer with my sons...

So, naturally, I greet them to see them on the local electricity website...And there was a school handout encouraging kids to sit down with their parents and sign up online for their "FREE" energy kit...

I was like "Hmmm, what is this..??"

She had already submitted it....my sons were excited..

I cringed inside...