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Old 03-28-2012, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Check back in 2019 when those subsidies for the first five years (2014-2019) disappear as IBD reported recently, and John & Jessica Taxpayer will have to start coming up with more $$$$out of their bank accounts to pay much more for their healthcare, or whatever remains after the rationing begins......
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Check back in 2019 when those subsidies for the first five years (2014-2019) disappear as IBD reported recently, and John & Jessica Taxpayer will have to start coming up with more $$$$out of their bank accounts to pay much more for their healthcare, or whatever remains after the rationing begins......
Link please.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Check back in 2019 when those subsidies for the first five years (2014-2019) disappear as IBD reported recently, and John & Jessica Taxpayer will have to start coming up with more $$$$out of their bank accounts to pay much more for their healthcare, or whatever remains after the rationing begins......
You are being very generous thinking that money will last the full 5 years.
The high risk pool started in 2010 and was given 4 years of subsidies. They spent all the money after 2 years and are asking the Fed to give them more money.
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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86 million Americans benefit from Obamacare preventive care mandate
86 million benefit from Obamacare preventive care mandate | HR Morning | Your daily dose of HR

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) just announced that the healthcare reform law provided approximately 54 million private health plan participants with at least one new free preventive service in 2011.
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The law also made preventive services free for most people on Medicare, and it’s estimated that another 32.5 million people on Medicare received at least one free preventive service in 2011. That brings the law’s beneficiary grand total to 86 million.
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That's interesting.
i don't think it was really free, do you? only way possible is if the government force doctors to work for free in witch case it would cost the doctors their hard work and the other way would be if the government confiscate money from hard working American and use that money to pay for the so called, but not so free preventive health care! some one has to pay every time why cant liberal socialists understand that! nothing is free nothing!
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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i don't think it was really free, do you? only way possible is if the government force doctors to work for free in witch case it would cost the doctors their hard work and the other way would be if the government confiscate money from hard working American and use that money to pay for the so called, but not so free preventive health care! some one has to pay every time why cant liberal socialists understand that! nothing is free nothing!
We paid for those "free" services with our increased premiums.

And if these people are like my SIL then they have signed up for every preventative test ever given.
My SIL loves this "free" care because before she had to pay for each and every test. Now I'm paying for it and she thinks she's getting it for free
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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i don't think it was really free, do you? only way possible is if the government force doctors to work for free in witch case it would cost the doctors their hard work and the other way would be if the government confiscate money from hard working American and use that money to pay for the so called, but not so free preventive health care! some one has to pay every time why cant liberal socialists understand that! nothing is free nothing!
It's not free.
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's not free.
No it's not but many of the people using them seem to think so because they do not have to hand over money when they go for preventative care.
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:39 PM
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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The article referenced has the following line in it: "...In 2011, the healthcare reform law put employers on the hook for preventive care by prohibiting co-pays or deductibles..."

So, its not coming out of our tax dollars....

Its coming out of the PRICE of EVERYTHING, or maybe the employer WONT Pass the expense on to the consumer?

Doctors dont work for free...silly wabbit.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The article referenced has the following line in it: "...In 2011, the healthcare reform law put employers on the hook for preventive care by prohibiting co-pays or deductibles..."

So, its not coming out of our tax dollars....

Its coming out of the PRICE of EVERYTHING, or maybe the employer WONT Pass the expense on to the consumer?

Doctors dont work for free...silly wabbit.
No, it's not coming from tax dollars; it's coming from your higher premiums.
Either way..YOU are paying for it.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:16 AM
 
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The law also made preventive services free for most people on Medicare, and it’s estimated that another 32.5 million people on Medicare received at least one free preventive service in 2011. That brings the law’s beneficiary grand total to 86 million.
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That's interesting.
What is interesting is how you can believe anything is free as premiums go up 30-200%
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