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Russian devil?! You are somehow stuck in the past it seems. Russia is not more of a devil then the US is. Both are countries ruthlessly ignoring other countries' interests.
Ignoring other countries' interests? We just heard Barack Obama kowtowing to Russia.......whose interests are he protecting exactly? It certainly doesn't sound like he's standing up for US interests!
Nothing about it confuses me. I wanted to hear you come forth and proclaim that you support every aspect of Barack Obama's agenda....even if that means making a deal with the Russian Devil.
Sorry to disappoint you, since I do not support every aspect of his agenda. But we have always made deals with the Russians. Even our most conservative right-wing presidents have done so.
Reagan negotiated the INF treaty and set the foundation for START. Nixon gave us SALT I.
To not make deals is both stupid and self destructive.
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
I always knew that Democrats were pacifists.
LOL... Are you actually encouraging war with the Russians? While I am not and never have been a pacifist, I find such gleeful anticipation of potential Armageddon a little bit... insane.
Don't you?
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
Thank you for wholeheartedly confirming that you never intend to question Barack Obama's policies.
Why do you even bother to write such stupid stuff. Certainly you can't imagine it actually deceives anybody.
It is always fascinating to plumb the intellectual and integral bankruptcy of the fringe right-wing. You are one of the poster boys.
Ignoring other countries' interests? We just heard Barack Obama kowtowing to Russia.......whose interests are he protecting exactly? It certainly doesn't sound like he's standing up for US interests!
To you it seems anyone not bullying someone else is kowtowing them.
The planned missile defense shield was a flawed project from the very start. And now the West doesn't know how to backpedal without loosing face.
He still won't have the authority to do anything without the approval of the Congress.
To the extent that this is true, it is true of all presidents regardless of what term they are serving. As far as observations of the painfully obvious go, you can put that one at the top of the list.
To the extent that this is not true, Presidents have always found greater latitude of action in their ultimate term than in their initial term for exactly the reasons we've discussed here. The executive branch actually does have powers you know. And a 2nd term President has far greater leeway to use them
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Originally Posted by LetsRock
Barry will be a "lame duck" and ignored from Day 1. He will have sit in the corner with a grape soda and sign what the Congress sends him.
I'm sure that is one of your recurring wet dreams. But when they turn to nightmares you know better.
Sorry to disappoint you, since I do not support every aspect of his agenda. But we have always made deals with the Russians. Even our most conservative right-wing presidents have done so.
Reagan negotiated the INF treaty and set the foundation for START. Nixon gave us SALT I.
To not make deals is both stupid and self destructive.
LOL... Are you actually encouraging war with the Russians? While I am not and never have been a pacifist, I find such gleeful anticipation of potential Armageddon a little bit... insane.
Don't you?
Why do you even bother to write such stupid stuff. Certainly you can't imagine it actually deceives anybody.
It is always fascinating to plumb the intellectual and integral bankruptcy of the fringe right-wing. You are one of the poster boys.
You should re-read your post. Everything in this write-up is a pre-disposed approval of Barack Obama's Agenda.....especially as it pertains to making a deal with Russia on a program you opine (without evidence) that is flawed. You have rubber stamped his policy without even realizing it.
De facto approval. You don't see it do you? Do I need to point it out? Or did you do that on purpose?
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Originally Posted by Neuling
I suppose he meant that now before the election he has to play the tough, nationalist guy in order to appeal to the voting mob back home (the same thing Putin and many other leaders do before elections by the way). After the election he can negotiate a solution with the Russians, who are in my opinion right when they consider NATO's missile defense plans unacceptable.
It's a shame to say,but the Russians have got their heads on a hell of a lot straighter than the rest of the world right now as far as saying NO...Obama MAY have been aluding to the AIPAC mess too....Russia is putting their foot down on the Iran attack plan if the U.S. gets involved..it is BIG News on RT of late...maybe Obama is wanting elbow room to deal with that situation.
I have. It was actually completely neutral regarding the President's agenda. Once again your response demonstrates that you live in an alternate reality suffused with imaginary things that are not there.
You asked a question. I answered it. And then you ran off into left field wailing and gnashing your teeth. All the time, the play was at first base.
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
Everything in this write-up is a pre-disposed approval of Barack Obama's Agenda.....especially as it pertains to making a deal with Russia on a program you opine (without evidence) that is flawed. You have rubber stamped his policy without even realizing it.
One simply must be high on drugs to draw such a conclusion. You are also, by the way, confusing my comments with that of a completely different person.
Leave it to you to screw up even the simple things like that.
That said... I am fully in support of negotiating additional arms reductions with the Russians, no matter who the President is. I supported it under Reagan and Nixon, and I'll support it under Obama.
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
De facto approval. You don't see it do you? Do I need to point it out? Sounds like it.
I see only your frantic attempt to spin a response that you otherwise want desperately to ignore. What I wrote was completely neutral and completely true, and you seem incapable of handling that. So instead you set up irrelevant straw men that frankly have nothing to do with the discussion.
Anybody with more than a brain stem knows why he said it. Except perhaps you and Aero.
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Originally Posted by modeerf
He can be de-selected if the tide changes. ie. Kennedy being replaced by Johnson.
There you go again, embracing the insanity of conspiracy theories rather than prosaic reality. It is among the traits that make your life so hard and you so personally unhappy.
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