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Old 05-09-2012, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Arguing that morality and law should or are separate is a demonstration of willfull ignorance.
But morality is also a premise of "Sharia".

 
Old 05-09-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Words and their meanings change over time.
Some do, yes. But they should never be forced to be changed because a small minority insists upon it - especially when the word in question is one that describes a fundamental institution of society. If people eventually want to redefine the word they can do so democratically. Until then, you are only complaining that people won't do what you insist they do against their will.
 
Old 05-09-2012, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I have a feeling this is going to make alot of North Carolinians lean towards Obama.
A lot of North Carolinans already leaned towards Obama - in fact many of his supporters voted for Amendment One. And isn't it interesting that until just today - the president refused to publicly support gay marriage. Your premise - while technically true - is a bit faulty.

Last edited by Harrier; 05-09-2012 at 03:22 PM..
 
Old 05-09-2012, 03:12 PM
 
Location: NC
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Gays being awarded the same rights as straights = Help! They're imposing their gayness on us!

Homophobes actually imposing their religious views on gays through law = ...what they deserve?

Can't explain that brilliant reasoning. 'Tis a mystery, like the tides.

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I will again ask you to do your own research. I will not do so for you. Act like a grownup and stop whining because you can't have a toy.
You claim, you prove.
 
Old 05-09-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Gays being awarded the same rights as straights = Help! They're imposing their gayness on us!
Didn't ya notice how much deeper our tans got when the Civil Rights Act was passed?
 
Old 05-09-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You claim, you prove.
I am not being asked to prove anything - I am being asked for the source of a definition. Do you deny that marriage has a definition? If I did what burdell asked - I could be asked to give the source of the definition of every word in the dictionary - which I won't do because I have better things to do. Burdell wants to know the source of the word - Burdell can do the research by his/herself.
 
Old 05-09-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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Serious question; do any of you think homosexuals would do better to not use the term, "marriage"? I mean if they lobbied for all the rights of marriage but not use the word, would they be more successful?
It's not our fault the term "marriage" was attached to the law, and it certainly doesn't mean we should be denied access to said law.
 
Old 05-09-2012, 03:16 PM
 
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Thank the good Lord Jesus and people of NC the ban has been passed! Liberals think they have won the war over this country. Yeah right! The war is JUST beginning. Republicans are going to take back this country one by one!!
 
Old 05-09-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
It forces me to recognize the validity of a relationship that I don't believe is valid. It is the imposition of another persons view of morality on myself. My position is clear: gays can have their relationships - I disagree, but I'm not willing to legislate my view(not quite Taliban-like, is it?) I support civil unions - and defend there enforcement in our courts. I draw the line at marriage - and doing so is not violating any civil rights. It is stating that the word marriage has a definition and that our laws should recognize that definition.
It does no such thing.
 
Old 05-09-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
I am not being asked to prove anything - I am being asked for the source of a definition. Do you deny that marriage has a definition? If I did what burdell asked - I could be asked to give the source of the definition of every word in the dictionary - which I won't do because I have better things to do. Burdell wants to know the source of the word - Burdell can do the research by his/herself.

Well then WHY claim a word shouldn't be redefined if you don't know the souce of the definition in the first place? What makes you so sure the definition has any vaildity to start with?

BTW, you've claimed marriage is a contract, since when are contracts not subject to revision(i. e. redefinition)?
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