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Old 05-15-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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The only motive behind homosexuals being allowed to adopt children is to legitamize homosexual relationships and sex. No one in their right mind can actually believe that a gay "family" is superior to a household with a mother and a father for the purpose of raising children. Yet, we have the lives of children being treated like sets of dice - and we are allowing homosexuals to adopt children when there are heterosexual couples willing and able to adopt - just so we can satisfy the selfish desires of the gay agenda to be seen as legitamate. It is pathetic.
No, what's pathetic is your continued ignorance and stubbornness on this topic. Do you really think gay couples give a CRAP whether or not their relationship is "validated" by some conservative in Alabama (for example)? Or that they'd adopt and raise a child for the sole purpose of being accepted by Joe-Bob and his wife Betty?

Furthermore, I'd like to see the waiting list of straight couples willing to adopt older, non-white children, some with AIDS or born addictions - guess what, it doesn't exist! And yet you would rather have them rot away in foster care or a group home, or die alone in a hospital, rather than allowing a stable & loving gay couple to adopt them? Pathetic and cruel.

 
Old 05-15-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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I don't think "straight" people understand this! This isn't just about "Civil Unions" alone and the "legal" protections it will afford.
This is about self validation and being equal with the rest of Society. Gays and straights have been to Weddings, Funerals, Bar Mitzahs, "Sweet Sixteens, birthdays, and every other type of celebrations!
So a Wedding is more than just a "piece of paper"! It's a "Custom" and a "Celebration" that has been part of our lives.
Let Gay people get married & want to be in a serious relationship and I can promise you the best Wedding reception and food ever!
Yes.....but why involve the state???? Why do you need to seek PERMISSION to marry? Declare yourself married and so be it. Oh, and yes, gay weddings would be awesome.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Yes it is.
So the media has brainwashed you to believe.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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Sure? Whatever?
Why is the government in the marriage business? Something that is between 2 consenting adults? Why enlarge the mistake??
Because the Constitution requires it. As long as civil marriage law existis, everybody is entitled to access it equally.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Because the Constitution requires it. As long as civil marriage law existis, everybody is entitled to access it equally.
Everyone can access marriage legally - there is no law that prevents anyone from getting married - so long as they meet the requirements to do so.

Any man can marry any woman he wishes to - and vice versa.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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Because the Constitution requires it. As long as civil marriage law existis, everybody is entitled to access it equally.
How does the Constitution require that the federal government be involved in marriage?
 
Old 05-15-2012, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Because the Constitution requires it. As long as civil marriage law existis, everybody is entitled to access it equally.
This.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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This.
Please share. Where does the Constitution discuss marriage? It doesn't.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Everyone can access marriage legally - there is no law that prevents anyone from getting married - so long as they meet the requirements to do so.
It's the requirements themselves, that's excluding a group of legally consenting adults, that's unconstitutional.

THis includes incest and poly marriages. If the adults can give legal consent, the government should be required to recognise the union. Regardless.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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I understand this just fine - in fact it is my central thesis. Gay marriage is not about civil rights - it is about providing legitmacy for a deviant lifestyle. Thanks for agreeing with me.
Your "central thesis" is "judgement" and has nothing to what you consider a "deviant" lifestyle!
Why should I consider what you do sexually in your own bedroom "deviant"?

Lip stock gloss? "deviant"
Hooker fish net stockings? "deviant"
Wigs? "deviant"
Leather shoes? "deviant"
Make up? "deviant"

A "BURKA" not so deviant!

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