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That being the case, why do you consider the terms "hater" and "homophobe" to be name-calling? Do those terms not suit you?
Of course not. Telling a homosexual all about his sin and his perversion and oppressing him with the weight of law is for his own good. It's an act of love.
Of course not. Telling a homosexual all about his sin and his perversion and oppressing him with the weight of law is for his own good. It's an act of love.
Civil marriage has no traditional meaning. It's a legal institution - a contract within our civil, secular laws - that confers a collection of joint rights to couples.[snip]
How can you seriously say that civil marriage has no traditional meaning. During nearly all of this country's history, if you met a male who said he was married, you could take for granted the spouse was a female. Other things might vary--- age, color, cousins--- but one thing was tradition enough to take for granted. The married couple will be female and male.
btw, I take the word 'tradition' to exclude ancient Greece, Rome, and Utah.
How can you seriously say that civil marriage has no traditional meaning. During nearly all of this country's history, if you met a male who said he was married, you could take for granted the spouse was a female. Other things might vary--- age, color, cousins--- but one thing was tradition enough to take for granted. The married couple will be female and male.
btw, I take the word 'tradition' to exclude ancient Greece, Rome, and Utah.
I was simply trying to make the distinction between religious / traditional marriages and civil marriages. So many people seem to incorrectly conflate the two. Civil marriage is a legal institution - not a religious or cultural tradition.
But yes, there has been a legal "tradition" in this country to write our civil marriage laws in discriminatory, unconstitutional ways. In addition to what you point out about married individuals and the gender of their spouses, it's also true that during nearly all of this country's history if you met a white person who said he was married you could take for granted his spouse was also white. Thankfully that "traditional" requirement was remedied.
I don't really understand these figures. What do they mean, where do they come from? Is this registered voters, recent election figures, what? To suggest that Jefferson and especially Arapahoe Counties have taken a "hard left" is laughable.
Those numbers were comparing the Dem-GOP numbers in those counties to the Dem- GOP numbers nationwide.
In 1996 for example despite Clinton winning by about 8.5% nationwide he lost both Jefferson and Arapahoe Counties. Obama on the other hand won by a little over 7 nationwide, and not only won both counties won both of them by largr than his national margin. So both counties have gone from considerably more Republican than the nation to slightly more Democratic than the nation.
The counties aren't hard left, but the swing has been.
Those numbers were comparing the Dem-GOP numbers in those counties to the Dem- GOP numbers nationwide.
In 1996 for example despite Clinton winning by about 8.5% nationwide he lost both Jefferson and Arapahoe Counties. Obama on the other hand won by a little over 7 nationwide, and not only won both counties won both of them by largr than his national margin. So both counties have gone from considerably more Republican than the nation to slightly more Democratic than the nation.
The counties aren't hard left, but the swing has been.
Why did you leave out Douglas and Adams counties and the relative changes in populations for for those counties over that time frame?
Some would love to do so. It is simply the GOP showing their true colors. The tide is turning and sooner or later ALL Americans will enjoy the same legal rights and benefits, count on it.
the tide is turning....yes...the majority....which is comprised mostly of middle to right... is sick and tired of being pushed....of being called names by left wing loons if we DARE to disagree with what they want...and the majority is now pushing back.
FYI...Marriage is not a RIGHT. There are no rights being violated if gay marriage is not recognized, simply because they have the same rights through common law and civil unions.
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