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Old 05-15-2012, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Just another example of religion poking it's nose in where it doesn't belong.
I don't think so in this case.

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It's because the Republican party is being controlled by the religious right. It's the reason I left the Republican party.
Not so much here.

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The Religious Right's stranglehold on the GOP is a key reason the state has shifted so much. Look at what has happened in suburban Denver.
Tell me what has happened in suburban Denver.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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GOP kills civil unions in Colorado special session - US news - msnbc.com

It's funny. They used to criticize homosexuals for pushing for same-sex marriage, and they'd say that they were okay with civil unions. Now they don't even approve of civil unions.

What's next? Will Republicans try to make homosexuality illegal again?
I'm pretty shocked that could happen in Birkenstockland. I'm pretty conservative, but I have no problem with civil unions.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:54 PM
 
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GOP kills civil unions in Colorado special session - US news - msnbc.com

It's funny. They used to criticize homosexuals for pushing for same-sex marriage, and they'd say that they were okay with civil unions. Now they don't even approve of civil unions.

What's next? Will Republicans try to make homosexuality illegal again?
Why do people on the left always accuse others with a different opinion, of hate?

What ever happened to just disagreeing?

I think those making the accusations are the ones filled with hate.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:57 PM
 
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I'm pretty shocked that could happen in Birkenstockland. I'm pretty conservative, but I have no problem with civil unions.
Neither do many Coloradans (my home state and where I've lived most of my life). 76% of Coloradans support extending equal state rights to gay couples via civil unions. Even 60% of Republicans in Colorado support civil unions. Hell, 37 of the 65 (57%) members of the Colorado House of Representatives, including 5 Republicans, declared support for this bill before the Speaker killed it.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Why do people on the left always accuse others with a different opinion, of hate?

What ever happened to just disagreeing?

I think those making the accusations are the ones filled with hate.

Republicans say the same thing when taxes on the rich are proposed to be raised. "You hate their success", things of that nature.

Its a political strategy.

I don't know the minds of the people who voted for or against this proposition. It could be religiously motivated, or not, I don't know. I could be hate, or not, I don't know.

What I do know is that its un American to deprive one person of rights that everyone else enjoys. I think the issue of gay marriage is clouded by religion, and as such, civil marriage should be abolished.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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Why do people on the left always accuse others with a different opinion, of hate?

What ever happened to just disagreeing?

I think those making the accusations are the ones filled with hate.
We don't accuse people who disagree with us of being hateful. We accuse people who mistreat others based on their sexuality (or race, or religion, etc) of hate.
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:03 PM
 
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GOP kills civil unions in Colorado special session - US news - msnbc.com

It's funny. They used to criticize homosexuals for pushing for same-sex marriage, and they'd say that they were okay with civil unions. Now they don't even approve of civil unions.

What's next? Will Republicans try to make homosexuality illegal again?
No. I don't think most people "hate" homosexuals; nor would they want to make homosexuality illegal. But, many who are not in favor of legalizing SSM are rightfully concerned about the slippery slope with Civil Unions.

"Well-meaning folks...who oppose redefining marriage, yet support civil unions and domestic partnerships for same-sex couples, do so with the mistaken belief that both sides of the marriage debate will be satisfied with this apparent compromise. In practice, however, neither side is happy. And more importantly, as a legal matter, civil union laws absolutely undermine the case for marriage."

"Make no mistake about it; a vote for this bill is a vote for same-sex “marriage.” In every U.S. jurisdiction where civil unions or domestic partnerships have been enacted, those who advocated for their passage subsequently rejected them as inadequate and demanded that marriage be redefined. (That dynamic has occurred in California, Washington state, New Jersey, Vermont, the District of Columbia, New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut, Hawai’i, Illinois, and Nevada, where civil unions provided the legal rights and privileges of marriage; the celebration of those new legal rights were immediate followed with demands for a new definition of marriage.)"


Why No State, Including Colorado, Should Accept

BTW, gays have every right to get "married" in a church of their finding and have it recognized by their own social group. Legally, the definition of marriage in this country has always been between one man and one woman and according to the 31 states in which it has been voted on, most people recognize the importance of keeping it that way.
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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No, as long as those convictions do not infringe upon the liberties of others.

Just as I'm entitled to believe that many religious people are knuckle dragging backwoods mouth breathers that are influenced by the beliefs of Bronze Age goat herders and have IQ's below your average house cat.
But marriage isn't just based on just personal choice. There are laws about what is considered to be a legal marriage and what is not. I am not expressing a personal opinion here on gay marriage just pointing out the facts.

Your last paragraph proves yet again how uncivil and insulting the left can be on any issue. As someone else asked in here what is wrong with just disagreeing without resorting to childish and hateful remarks?
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Besides snce they are such a small minority as the righties claim then there is nothing to worry about is there
That's what they said when they started handing out welfare checks for the "REALLY REALLY" needy.

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"The gay community is being used as a political pawn," he said.
I would think that to be more... The gay community is using ITSELF as a political pawn.
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Why do people on the left always accuse others with a different opinion, of hate?

What ever happened to just disagreeing?

I think those making the accusations are the ones filled with hate.
Maybe if those that have a different opinion would stop trying to make laws that force their opinion on others there would be less of a problem
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