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You know, in order to defend marriage between men and women, and defend the family, you have to get the men and women on board. How do you plan to end divorce? Do you have a strategy for mandating couples to have children? Some choose not to, you know. What are you going to do about all the singles, who now form well over 50% of the adult population? That's a pretty big project you've set for yourself. Good luck with that. You'll need it.
I never said I particularly endorse legalized gay marriage bans. I am for no one getting any special treatment just because they're married. Why isn't anyone standing up for single people? Why don't single people get tax benefits for being "lonely?" The litmus test for me is that if a family member said they were gay, I would still be against same-sex marriage. Has nothing to do with discrimination, bigotry or hatred. That's just spin. It's tomatoes and tomatos. One person's civil rights can be another person's discrimination. Not every is the same.
Why does everyone get so hung-up on the tax implications?
There are no laws preventing gay people from doing any of those things.
Differences in life are a good thing. Why do these types of movements force people to give up their own belief systems? Also, you're asking for public recognition of your lifestyle. Nothing private about it. At no other time in history has this been the cultural norm.
How would gays being allowed to marry force you to give up your belief system??
Really, how would it affect you? I'd really like to know....I've seen this said many times, but no one can explain it.
You know, in order to defend marriage between men and women, and defend the family, you have to get the men and women on board. How do you plan to end divorce? Do you have a strategy for mandating couples to have children? Some choose not to, you know. What are you going to do about all the singles, who now form well over 50% of the adult population? That's a pretty big project you've set for yourself. Good luck with that. You'll need it.
Fantastic response. That's where the focus really needs to be, not on it being based on just the religiousness or the sexual deviation angle. We'll see how the Millenials do.
I actually owe women an apology. When I was younger, I never really believed them when they said pop-culture images sexualized young women. There was very little of any gay images in the '80s and '90s. There was divorce but it wasn't like it is now where it's no big deal. Today, the media is pushing gay culture in your face all of the time, although it's artificially inflated (trendy). Gay images sexualize men in ways that are uncomfortable, and, according to some of the other posters in this thread, SSM material is being pushed in the schools. If it's not, it eventually will be. Don't want to discriminate on the birds and the bees talk . Pop culture is a young person's medium, and changing the definition of a family will have an affect on society. It already has. It's up to you to be dismissive of it.
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How would gays being allowed to marry force you to give up your belief system??
Really, how would it affect you? I'd really like to know....I've seen this said many times, but no one can explain it.
It's very simple. I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman. Great peoples need a common bond, and no matter your race, ethnic background or religion, that used to be marriage. The ideal of it, not always the reality. Now we're focusing on single mothers, same-sex marriages and cohabiting households. Also, this will force people who believe SSM is against their religion to participate (yes taxes) in endorsing sin. "Honor your father and mother," Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. They already tried forcing the Catholic Church into participating in same-sex adoptions, and now the Catholic Church got out of the adoption business. I don't believe SSM has any benefit and it's not the model I want for the country. The whole thing smacks of selfishness, greed, and "metooism." But we're not in high school and it will have a profound impact on the country. I don't live in a glass house, but we almost celebrate relationship breakdowns. I don't get it.
So, you're against equal protection under the law, budgetlord?
I won't continue to belabor the point, as I have stated before, marriage is not a right. It creates an issue because government is involved. Without government involvement, there is no "right." Government originally got involved to encourage people to marry and have children. If that notion has changed, and as same-sex couple cannot biologically have children, then they should get out of the business and stop social engineering people's lives. If they're out, the issue is solved. It's about legitimizing gay culture. It's also funny to me that the left-leaners are perfectly fine with banning people's right to smoke and eat what they want, but, well, Heaven forbid anyone take up the issue of SSM.
It's also funny to me that the left-leaners are perfectly fine with banning people's right to smoke and eat what they want, but, well, Heaven forbid anyone take up the issue of SSM.
This liberal thinks smoking and food bans are idiotic.
I won't continue to belabor the point, as I have stated before, marriage is not a right. It creates an issue because government is involved. Without government involvement, there is no "right." Government originally got involved to encourage people to marry and have children. If that notion has changed, and as same-sex couple cannot biologically have children, then they should get out of the business and stop social engineering people's lives. If they're out, the issue is solved. It's about legitimizing gay culture. It's also funny to me that the left-leaners are perfectly fine with banning people's right to smoke and eat what they want, but, well, Heaven forbid anyone take up the issue of SSM.
Much love, City-Data.
Why would anyone want the government to ban food, or cigarettes? I'm all for personal freedom, and personal responsibility.
I think we should ban heterosexual marriage, just to be fair. Let the breeders pay their own way!
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. Pop culture is a young person's medium, and changing the definition of a family will have an affect on society. It already has. It's up to you to be dismissive of it.