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Old 05-30-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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You seem dubious that men kill women who are pregnant. See page 23 post 224 where I posted poster Janelle's list of all the killings and beatings (erroneously calling it forced abortions.)
Yes. I think this individual had the concept that before abortions were available men did not beat and kill women who were pregnant. This actually was a lot more common.

Women even killed themselves when they found they were pregnant and their 'man' did not wish to marry them. Before abortions were available people were much more desperate.

Parents, with a lot more frequency kicked their daughters out, disowned them.

The 'lucky' girls managed to get illegal abortions, performed in not the best of conditions, resulting in death and or disfigurement for some. It was really a nightmare.

All this horror made women terrified of premarital sex, something that I suppose certain people think is a good thing.

I, for one, am thankful to God for legal abortions. No merciful deity would demand that a woman go through the torture of carrying a child that she does not want.
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:26 PM
 
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Yes. I think this individual had the concept that before abortions were available men did not beat and kill women who were pregnant. This actually was a lot more common.

Women even killed themselves when they found they were pregnant and their 'man' did not wish to marry them. Before abortions were available people were much more desperate.

Parents, with a lot more frequency kicked their daughters out, disowned them.

The 'lucky' girls managed to get illegal abortions, performed in not the best of conditions, resulting in death and or disfigurement for some. It was really a nightmare.

All this horror made women terrified of premarital sex, something that I suppose certain people think is a good thing.

I, for one, am thankful to God for legal abortions. No merciful deity would demand that a woman go through the torture of carrying a child that she does not want.
You think that is not going on now with abortion being legal? It still happens plus men and parents forcing women to abort or else they will abuse them and or kill them.
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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Default women atill being abused but some think since abortion is legal that's ok

Abortion is the Unchoice


Most abortions in America are unwanted or coerced. Many here and elsewhere are forced,followed by serious aftereffects.


This site offers evidence-based information and user-friendly resources about unwanted abortions and post-abortion risks, including maternal abuse, trauma, injury and deaths before, during or after abortion. Abortion endanger the rights and lives of both unborn children and women.
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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Abortion is the Unchoice


Most abortions in America are unwanted or coerced. Many here and elsewhere are forced,followed by serious aftereffects.


This site offers evidence-based information and user-friendly resources about unwanted abortions and post-abortion risks, including maternal abuse, trauma, injury and deaths before, during or after abortion. Abortion endanger the rights and lives of both unborn children and women.
You've posted this about a million times.
No matter how many times you post it, that still does not make it true.
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:00 PM
 
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You think that is not going on now with abortion being legal? It still happens plus men and parents forcing women to abort or else they will abuse them and or kill them.
Yes. It's horrible, but at least these days many women abort. Back then this was not an option for many, who did not have access to the illegal abortionists, and being caught in that more constricting position, more men panicked and just murdered the girl.

My husband is British and tells me of the chartered planes that came to his country from the US of girls and women who were wealthy enough to afford the trip to England for abortions.

It is always the poor or those with limited connections who suffer. Making this illegal will only persecute those who are already among the country's sorriest.
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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You've posted this about a million times.
No matter how many times you post it, that still does not make it true.
Yes. Facts are met with half truths and lies. For what end? To add to the misery of the world. Lying should be a sin. Oh, it is!
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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Yes. Facts are met with half truths and lies. For what end? To add to the misery of the world. Lying should be a sin. Oh, it is!
Its too bad those that do the lying absolve themselves with platitudes.
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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Yes. Facts are met with half truths and lies. For what end? To add to the misery of the world. Lying should be a sin. Oh, it is!
Ya, it is very funny how those who lie the most claim they are Christians!

Out and out blatant lies like:

""Most abortions in America are unwanted or coerced. Many here and elsewhere are forced,followed by serious aftereffects.""


And, you're right about the WEALTHY having easy access to abortion even if it was illegal....the Anti-Choicers just want to make poor and middle class women suffer, they must enjoy it.
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:48 PM
 
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You think that is not going on now with abortion being legal? It still happens plus men and parents forcing women to abort or else they will abuse them and or kill them.
You have me on "mental ignore as an excuse for not answering questions so I'll answer these for you.

Will abortions end if they're illegal????

No.

Will the beatings and killings end if abortion is illegal?

No.
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:27 PM
 
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You have me on "mental ignore as an excuse for not answering questions so I'll answer these for you.

Will abortions end if they're illegal????

No.

Will the beatings and killings end if abortion is illegal?

No.
Will people of conscience be forced to pay for it? Yes, now we are until PP is defunded. No pro-choice for 50% of taxpayers that are against it.

Of course it will happen as long as humans live. The question is who will pay for it? Women being forced to abort as well as those who want to. No matter what, pay for evil and shut up.
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