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Old 06-12-2012, 09:46 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I will tell you God is in control.
God sent Al Qaeda operatives to crash into the World Trade Centers?
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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Can someone please care to tell me why a ridiculous number of people have it in their heads that Obama is a Marxist. I'm not some "ignorant *******" or "follower of Obama propaganda" like just about everyone who defends the President on the internet is accused of being these days. His track record isn't that great. But what exactly has he done in his governing style and economic policy that is even CLOSE to what Karl Marx promoted in his works?

From what I can see throughout his economic policies, it's almost been a third George W. Bush term. He's barely done a thing to increase regulations over the banks that seriously need regulating. The biggest expansion of Federal Government power--hell, the only major expansion in his whole Presidency--has been the ObamaCare law. And even then, things haven't really changed much since before the law was passed.

Economic policy of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Socialism (Marxism) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not a lot of similarities.

Obama - student of Marxist professors - his own words - YouTube


5/18/12 Obama in his own words: Seeked Marxist professors, socialists conferences, etc. - YouTube
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I going to question the "Christ " you believe in. It can't be the Jesus who was such a threat to the wealthy powers that be and the Priests of Judea that he merited the form execution reserved for the most henious criminals and traitors to the Roman Empire! Why do you think your religion has the sign of the Roman Cross, it should remind you that he died on the cross not for himself but for others (very socialist of him eh).
Obama believes in collective salvation which is not a part of Christianity.


Jesus set himself apart from government and had a kingdom reserved for his followers . Jesus was before the Roman Empire.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Bush brought us closer to life in the USSR than anyone. He approved domestic spying on citizens through phone and internet, and the media were controlled to the point that our Pravda (Truth) had no Izvestia (News) and Izvestia had no Pravda. The whole mentality that we're surrounded by enemies, and you don't know who to trust inside the country either, there could be enemies in your own neighborhood, began under Bush. Secret detention centers in Poland and Romania--wow, who ever would have thought it would be the USA running those there! Life became a little too Stalinesque under Bush.
ha, ha..you actually belive that

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He approved domestic spying on citizens through phone and internet,
that would be clinton, and many other past presidents

April 1993
The Clinton Administration unveils the "Clipper Chip," an encryption chip developed by the National Security Agency, and proposes legislation mandating its incorporation into all encryption products, giving the government access to all encrypted messages.

February 1994
The White House announces the adoption of the Clipper Chip. Attorney General announces that two U.S. Government entities will hold the escrowed key components. The Department of State issues its International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), designating cryptographic systems and software as "munitions" requiring a license before they can be imported or exported.

October 1994
President Clinton signs into law the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA), also called the National Wiretap Plan, or digital telephony, requiring telecommunications carriers to ensure that all of their equipment is wiretap-friendly. The industry goes along with the legislation only after the Administration pledges to seek $500 million from Congress to fund the program.

October 1995
The FBI files notice in the Federal Registry seeking the authority under CALEA to simultaneously monitor one out of every 100 telephone lines in "high crime areas" of the country, representing a 1,000-fold increase over previous levels of surveillance.

October 1996
Vice President Gore announces the Administration's intention to liberalize export controls for commercial encryption products for up to two years, but only if industry commits to build and market products that support key recovery.

Cryptographer Daniel Bernstein files suit against the State Department asking that the export control laws be struck down on First Amendment grounds.

November 1997
ACLU and other civil liberties groups petition the Federal Communications Commission to reconsider and put an end to the FBI's plans for expanded wiretapping capabilities under CALEA.

The Clinton Administration's anti-privacy position
The Clinton Administration has consistently ignored the privacy rights of all Americans against unauthorized interception or surveillance. Its public statements, regulations, legislative proposals and litigation positions all support significant curbs on the private sector's ability to use cryptography to protect electronic privacy.

---this is straight from the ACLu-----http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/big-brother-wires-wiretapping-digital-age

game, set, and match
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:53 PM
 
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seeked Marxist professors, socialists conferences, etc. -
Who wrote this? The Disinformation Campaign should at least learn English grammar. Otherwise it sounds like a Soviet-lead propaganda strategy to turn America against Obama, so that the GOP will win and ruin the country. Putin, the KGB officer, is still running Russia, and doesn't plan to leave the scene anytime soon, you know. The bad grammar is blowing your cover, people.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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Sean Hannity and Brent Bozell. Totally unbiased and not in anyway regurgitating the same old lame conspiracy theories because they can't figure out that Obama is just a mediocre president. Not a socialist. Not a Marxist.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Who wrote this? The Disinformation Campaign should at least learn English grammar. Otherwise it sounds like a Soviet-lead propaganda strategy to turn America against Obama, so that the GOP will win and ruin the country. Putin, the KGB officer, is still running Russia, and doesn't plan to leave the scene anytime soon, you know. The bad grammar is blowing your cover, people.
The Vietnam war was to keep the spread of communism at bay , now we have a communist in the white house. JFK was a democrat and knew what communism was and the threat of what it could do.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:57 PM
 
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Sean Hannity and Brent Bozell. Totally unbiased and not in anyway regurgitating the same old lame conspiracy theories because they can't figure out that Obama is just a mediocre president. Not a socialist. Not a Marxist.
Bill Clinton, is that you? Deny, deny, deny.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:58 PM
 
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The Vietnam war was to keep the spread of communism at bay , now we have a communist in the white house. JFK was a democrat and knew what communism was and the threat of what it could do.
You have called him a communist.

Name-calling!
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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Obama is not an old school socialist, he's a modern day socialist. He is like the French socialists and the German social democrats.
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