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Old 06-18-2012, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Originally Posted by mwruckman View Post
This is a poor arguement because those 400 hav e more total income than the bottom 50% and a large part of their income is in the unearned catagory and those not taxed at any where near the rate that earned income is taxed!
Cool, so the top 400 has more income but pays less taxes then the bottom 50% pay in taxes... Sure seems like something is wrong with that equation.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:35 PM
 
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...Which is why we need to slash government welfare programs so that people who are out of work actually make the effort to find work instead of relying on the government...

When there are 4x as many jobseekers as there are jobs, the least skilled will starve, is that what you want?
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:15 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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It would be something like the "Tax Parable."
Tax Parable | swirlspice
Excellent! This is an excellent read and so true!
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:28 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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You'd just be in the same boat as most Americans, a victim of the debt trap, running on a treadmill getting nowhere fast.

yea, if you have a dream of owning your own business and getting at least semi wealthy, forget it now. It will be impossible. Our main reason for existence is to pay for the lazy a**, the gimmies.

The dream is over!
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:35 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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Originally Posted by BigJon3475 View Post
The current trajectory is tax cuts expiring for everyone,

Did you read that? tax cuts expiring for EVERYONE. One example, child care tax cut in half -> more taxes for you!

the payroll tax going back to

cost more money to keep you as an employee -> Great way to create jobs right

what it should have always been and the AMT fix disappearing along with massive cuts in Medicare payments and entitlements along with the Federal Government.

oh yea, there are allot of people who are in for a surprise when they get hit with ATM for the first time. If it does not hit you in 2013 it might in 2014. PS, are you a two income household?

Right now that's what you're in store for unless Obama and Co. change that course and anything they do that doesn't go in that direction just as much or even more will only prolong the agony. Don't even think he's going to do anything productive with more debt added to the equation through his newest pivot point of focusing on jobs.

Anyways...

You're going to be poor no matter what you do. You can't possible tax enough rich people to pay for your liberal wet-dreams.

So vote him in and suffer the consequences -> Less money in YOUR pocket and the possibility of retirement is the good ole days.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:45 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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I'm successful because I dont run around pretending I'm a victim.. Why dont you try it.. ?
I could not have said it better. Did you ever notice that just like the "One", its always everyone else's fault too. That is why they are so easy for them to buy the excuses we've been given.

Poor, I'm a victim, just lost over 800,000 jobs and they will still vote him in and blame Bush lol.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:52 AM
 
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decrying the poor as not contributing their "fair share",
Oh but they are contributing -> To the problem

Tell em to stop multiplying! Birth Control. hmm I wonder if the words are too big?
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:59 AM
 
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So the top 400 paid an average of $40 million each in taxes? If $40 million isn't a fair share, how much should we be taking? How much can we take before these massive tax contributors either buy more tax loopholes or move their money overseas?
Your right and ... Well get ready, more are going overseas -> and taking their jobs with them.

oh and then of course people will WONDER WHY and we will hear.. NOT FAIR.

Seriously people, are you really that stupid??
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:05 AM
 
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If a zillionaire decides to leave the country or even send his money to an offshore tax haven I would declare him outlaw and cancel his citizenship. He pays no taxes, he gets no protection.
Protection from what? Being Robbed lol??
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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When there are 4x as many jobseekers as there are jobs, the least skilled will starve, is that what you want?
And yet hundreds of thousands of new illegals arrive every year to fill those jobs Americans won't do....
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