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Old 06-17-2012, 12:17 PM
 
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Funny how the Liberals are ok with Criminals as long as they support their agenda and want the heads of anyone else and even death to those who do not!
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Old 06-17-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Geez, get off your rightie this and rightie that kick already. It is getting tiresome and you're sounding like a broken record. By the way, what the hell is an undocumented worker? They are illegal aliens!
The stats in the OP only refer to "Mexican immigrants". It doesn't say how many are legal and how many are illegal. This is another alarmist OP based on incomplete or distorted info. Nothing new to C-D Politics.
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Old 06-17-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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Since when do Mexicans owe it to America to keep their money here in the USA ? I have no love Mexicans considering they mooch off of America for everything .You think the mexicans are gonna feel some type of obilgation to America,when all they care about is Mexico .
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Old 06-17-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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Why not put a 90% tax on all remittances to Mexico or any other southern destination?
Because that would deprive US businesses of a cheap, rights-less labor pool. Duh.
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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ever driven by the 10000s of acres of farmland in the central valley, you know the ones owned by rightys that divide them up in into various parcels so they get tax payer supported severely discounted water. you know the area the of righty wing hate government as per their voting and representation.... Well those fields do not seem to have too many of you cry babies in it picking those crops for 14 hours a day 7 days a week for cash payments that do not even hit minimum wage and forget about overtime, so you can stuff you fat bellies with rice and berries so you rightys can tip the scale of obesity. remember almost without exception the red states are the most obese there are in the world. (mind body and soul) Not just country world. Your hate is consuming you.

Those righty farmers with their government handouts paying subpar wages are cashing in and it is those rightys that should be paying. Lets move on to slaughter houses, once again I do not see those righty cry babies working those miserable jobs either. Lets look at cleaning your righty corporate toilets, we need you to get your head out of those toilets. Oh thats righty you do not do that work either.

Do you rightys know how they stopped the flooding in the central valley so the righty farmers could get crops without being wiped out, they hired people from china. Do you know how our railroads across the nation were built?

Democrats have tried to pass a national Id that would solve the illegal part. But the rightys used the tool of obstruction requiring again 60 votes to bring it to a vote. Do you really think the farmers and other low paying jobs around the country want immigration reform.

Do you know how bush did it he would send in 30-60 agents to one employer with guns drawn and camera/media to act like he was doing something. Obama sends in one accounting/ verification agent to 30-60 companies in a day and has more fines on employers for hiring undocumented workers that bush ever had. Obviously one was there to do nothing and one is there to take action. as we noticed under obama there has been a huge decrease in undocumented workers vs the Bush years.

It is really amazing how stupid Fox (Fux) watchers are. There was a study that showed a person living in a cave is more knowledgeable than a fux lemming.

oh the poor righty victim game of hate. rightys play the largest victims in the history of mankind. all these government handouts to corporation, all these righty high paying defense contractor jobs that can not make a product that is cost competitive that works. those are trillions of dollars of handouts a year.

Do you know electronic communication was funded by a government grant by the US congress 150 or so years ago. the first telegraph from DC to baltimore I think it was... proved the viability of the concept. That certainly has paid off.... and i think 150 years ago it was like 30 grand... imagine that in todays money...

as an engineer I go into many manufacturing companies. I can tell you without a doubt it is as simple as this. The rich rightys have sold america out is why we can not manufacture anymore. I go into companies were the trust fund kid has taken over and they just are not their parents/founders with vision. They are their to milk the company to its death. They do not buy state of the art machines to hold critical tolerances. I can tell you when I walk into a good manufacturing facility it is the founder is working there and he cares. He will get that state of the art spring making machines that increases not only precision but productivity. For some reason in Germany, and Japan, the ultra rich have a pride in their country that is not found in America. You go into their factories and even if it is 4 generations later of owner they have state of the art machinery. Germany with the highest paid union workers, over double the vacation time, shorter work weeks, nationalized health care (by any metric higher and better quality healthcare) and they make world class products that no one can. Same with Japan except Japan does not have as much vacation time.

again you righty idiots it is not trickle down as these trust fund (kings) who own virtually all the media would have you believe, it is **** ON AMERICANS...

after all they lie to you and say the media is liberal when they own it. what 95% plus of all talk radio is righty, and that does not even include the righty religious stations.... ABC puts on hate talkers on radio without balance. NBC is a defence/banking/healthcare/medical company. CBS was owned by a defense contractor for most of the time and same thing put on hate righty talk on their radio without balance. largest and the majority papers in the country are righty wing. Over 400 reporters were on the CIA payroll and never quit, CIA just said they would not pay them anymore. And you think those CIA reporters acted like they were rightys. Fux the largest media empire in the USA and world claims with a lie and it is acceptable fair and balanced.
LMAO! Yes I've driven on the I-5 and the central valley LOTS OF TIMES! It's been destroyed! Whatever semblance of America agriculture used to there has been totally replaced by enclaves of third world crapholes of migrant/illegal workers that continue to destroy a once beautiful area of the state. The central valley is like living in little Mexico.

Im not saying there isn't a need for government. But the US government has become too expensive, too invasive and way too inefficient to be able to do anything correctly. We as Americas MUST reduce the size, scope, and cost of government regardless of political party affiliation. 800,000 ILLEGALS Obama now wants to grant worker amnesty to are going to sit around and pick strawberries for $8/hr? Probably NONE!
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:10 PM
 
Location: in paradise...
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Funny how the Liberals are ok with Criminals as long as they support their agenda and want the heads of anyone else and even death to those who do not!
non-citizens do not vote. And again for the 3 or so time dems have been filibustered on many occasion when trying to pass a non-mandatory national free ID. If rightys were trying to allow IDs that is all they would have to allow. But the rightys stopped it everytime. Face it you rightys are lemmings of the trust fund (kings) who do not want to solve voting or job issues. as I have pointed out the rich want the cheap labor...


and in general when people south of the border become US citizens they are in general righty religiouscountries/authoritative society/ beliefs, they typically in a generation or so vote conservative. So it is counter if one wants to win elections for liberals if they only cared about politics.

funny how rightys approve of criminals in the military industrial complex....and these are rarely ever prosecuted. ever seen a righty military contractor go to jail...

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Old 06-17-2012, 02:59 PM
 
Location: in paradise...
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LMAO! Yes I've driven on the I-5 and the central valley LOTS OF TIMES! It's been destroyed! Whatever semblance of America agriculture used to there has been totally replaced by enclaves of third world crapholes of migrant/illegal workers that continue to destroy a once beautiful area of the state. The central valley is like living in little Mexico.

Im not saying there isn't a need for government. But the US government has become too expensive, too invasive and way too inefficient to be able to do anything correctly. We as Americas MUST reduce the size, scope, and cost of government regardless of political party affiliation. 800,000 ILLEGALS Obama now wants to grant worker amnesty to are going to sit around and pick strawberries for $8/hr? Probably NONE!
can you tell me when american workers have ever worked the righty farm fields along I5? again these are all righty districts, big time... the workers can not vote. they righty ideal system... pay a non living wage for a family... and they can not complain...

and you may have missed it, but were you aware the levees and so on the 1000 miles of them were made by migrant workers. these levees make it possible to farm the valley. can someone check to see if these adventurers had their green cards...
Sacramento's Delta History

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On August 1, 1839, John Augustus Sutter, a Swiss immigrant, along with three German carpenters, two mechanics, and eight Hawaiians, began his journey in the labyrinth that is the DELTA in search of land for other migrating Europeans. Departing Yerba Buena (San Francisco) he outfitted three boats and set sail through an area populated only by Indians and mosquitoes. Journeying closer to what is now Sacramento, it took Sutter twelve days to find the entrance to the American River, landing at what would become the Capitol City.
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Developers first thought levees 4 feet high and 12 feet at the base would protect Delta lands from tides and river overflow, but that proved inadequate fro Delta peat soils. By 1869, substantial levees had been constructed on Sherman Island and Twitchell Island by Chinese laborers, and in 1870 and 1871 the owners reaped bountiful harvests of grain and row crops. Small-scale reclamationprojects were started on Rough and Ready Island and Roberts Island in the 1870s, but the peat soils showed their weakness as levees. The peat soils would sink, blow away when dry, and develop deep cracks and fissures throughout the levee system. Sherman and Twitchell Islands flooded annually in the early 1870s
and the trains that run across the USA run on rail lines made by migrant workers when?
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:02 PM
 
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Reagan knows that was a mistake. Yet we want to continue and try the same nonsense. Bush, Clinton, and Obama have again, failed to secure our borders and deal with the problem. The thing is, if Romney steps up to deal with it, he will get crapped on by the media, Hollywood, and most liberals. We'll get the race card bombardment and the other usual crap.
Romney is a pro-amnesty guy, or at least he was once, has he flip-flopped again?
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Old 06-17-2012, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well with amnesty freeing them up to work for more then under the table pay that $23 billion just might turn into $33 billion within the next year.
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Old 06-17-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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And might I remind you that most of the countries that have government run healthcare are currently on the brink of collapse.
They are?
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