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Old 07-11-2012, 06:53 AM
 
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Hmmmm, ok you have weapon, you have the user who admitted to using said weapon and lastly you have a deceased person whose death was directly attributed to the use and the admission of the person who used the weapon carry out the deed.

Sounds like a murder to me, now what degree of murder is a different story
You've just eliminated all forms of justifiable and excusable homicide. Even to avenge tm's death and punish gz, that's not a good idea.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:50 AM
 
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You've just eliminated all forms of justifiable and excusable homicide. Even to avenge tm's death and punish gz, that's not a good idea.

Please explain when a homocide not considered to be murder even if it is not intentional? You are using legal terms to differentiate between the degrees of taking someones else's life
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:53 AM
 
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It also sounds like self defense too.
I look at this way, a strange man is following you for no reason he did not identify himself (not that he had any autority in the first place to make an arrest) and he brandishes a gun. Now, Trayvon had two choices either run home and possibly have this strange man follow him where there is no adult there or fight for his life. What would you do?
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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Its amazing how this simple fact is being overlooked by our resident "po' Tvon loves skittles" crew here...
Why because you and sour d are trying hard to justify the killing of an innocent youngman?
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:21 AM
 
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I look at this way, a strange man is following you for no reason he did not identify himself (not that he had any autority in the first place to make an arrest) and he brandishes a gun. Now, Trayvon had two choices either run home and possibly have this strange man follow him where there is no adult there or fight for his life. What would you do?
Show us the video of Z brandishing a gun on TM while he was following him. TIA! Why must you make things up? Is it because you have to in order to justify your agenda?
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:26 AM
 
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Why because you and sour d are trying hard to justify the killing of an innocent youngman?
So break it down for us since you seem to have been there when this all went down.
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Really? So you're saying the hogwash MSNBC, NBC, and The Young Turks puked up was true after all?

No, it wasn't?

That's what I thought.


It's unfortunate that so many posters, yourself included, missed all of the information in the first five threads on this case; it makes it impossible to ever catch up. That unfortunate detail also means that some posters have too little background on the subject to write thoughtful posts that contribute to the development of the current thread. People who find it difficult to post without using words like "puke" and "spew" add nothing to the discussion of the case, and the attempts at clever sarcasm fall far short of their intention. It reveals a juvenile mind-set and a general inability to delve below the surface of the dialogue that has been going on since February, as well as a lack of the skills required to integrate information into hypotheses.
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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Show us the video of Z brandishing a gun on TM while he was following him. TIA! Why must you make things up? Is it because you have to in order to justify your agenda?

Why don't you show us the video of Trayvon Martin beating Zimmerman's head on the sidewalk? Or of a 6'3" "hulking thug" sucker-punching Zimmerman from behind? Explain to us why it's not only acceptable but positively admirable to solicit donations from gullible people and then commit perjury when testifying about it. I know that you won't; you're too busy following your own agenda.
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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What she said, in the two previous posts!

There is no evidence that Trayvon started any altercation between him and GZ.
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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Show us the video of Z brandishing a gun on TM while he was following him. TIA! Why must you make things up? Is it because you have to in order to justify your agenda?
When he shot him Trayvon he had to show the gun to him now whether or not he waved it at him or not can be debated. I'm going by the fact that if Trayvon voice was the one screaming for help zimmerman did brandish his gun at Trayvon.

What agenda do you think that I have? I'm not trying to convince anyone to believe anything, all that I want is to separate the lies from the truth and the racist from the righteous
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