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Old 07-14-2012, 03:27 PM
 
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From The Journal of Marriage and Family Volume 72, Issue 1, pages 3–22, February 2010
The entrenched conviction that children need both a mother and a father inflames culture wars over single motherhood, divorce, gay marriage, and gay parenting. Research to date, however, does not support this claim. Contrary to popular belief, studies have not shown that "compared to all other family forms, families headed by married, biological parents are best for children" (Popenoe, quoted in Center for Marriage and Family, p. 1).
Research has not identified any gender-exclusive parenting abilities (with the partial exception of lactation). Our analysis confirms an emerging consensus among prominent researchers of fathering and child development. The third edition of Lamb's (1997) authoritative anthology directly reversed the inaugural volume's premise when it concluded that "very little about the gender of the parent seems to be distinctly important" (p. 10). Likewise, in Fath-erneed, Pruett (2000), a prominent advocate of involved fathering, confided, "I also now realize that most of the enduring parental skills are probably, in the end, not dependent on gender" (p. 18).


The full text article can be found here (for those who can access it)
How Does the Gender of Parents Matter? - Biblarz - 2010 - Journal of Marriage and Family - Wiley Online Library

 
Old 07-14-2012, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Originally Posted by stargazzer View Post
Statistics tell us that gay men have not a few but hundreds...of different sexual partners in their lives.
Wrong. The following is from an actual study: What real studies look like!Number of Partners

So what this study says it that the average male between the ages of 30-44 have 6-8 partners. So, unless heterosexual men are having negative numbers of relationships, it isn't possible for the average homosexual to have hundreds of sexual partners.



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This fact is fueling the aids epidemic where all health professionals, public workers use gloves when in close contact with
people because a mere splash of blood can transfer the aids virus...
What are you doing about the aids and other STDs in the third world countries that are NOT due to homosexuality? How about drug users who have these same diseases?

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Do homosexuals where gloves around children..? and if not, why not...24% of all aids people in USA don't know they have it...
Where do you get your information?

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over 50,000 new case's each year....thats about 20 new each week in every state....again do Homosexuals use gloves when in contact with children....the public has a right to know...thank you.
Ummm even your calculations are wrong. if there were 50,000 new cases a year then there would be 961.5 new cases a week. And by your calculations were right then there would have been 1,550,000 cases since 1981. You really need to reeducate yourself.

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( it is a scientific fact that homosexuality and that act is the greatest cause by far......of the propagation of this deadly disease which anyone can easily get with a very small splash of blood.
Again, please educate yourself. Yes you can get it from blood. And aids isn't the worst disease you can get.

Transfusion-Related Disease: 'Time Bomb' More Common Than AIDS - Los Angeles Times
Diseases Worse Than Aids | LIVESTRONG.COM
Death Toll From Diabetes Worse Than AIDS
 
Old 07-14-2012, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Originally Posted by stargazzer View Post
We need a full law prohibiting homosexuals around children without wearing gloves... due to the following facts available at CDC....Since society cannot possibly monitor the proposal for this new glove law....all children will require 3rd party community appointed officials when in the company of children, in support of this proposal.

Please read carefully.


Statistics tell us that gay men have not a few but hundreds...of different sexual partners in their lives.

This fact is fueling the aids epidemic where all health professionals, public workers use gloves when in close contact with
people because a mere splash of blood can transfer the aids virus...

Do homosexuals where gloves around children..? and if not, why not...24% of all aids people in USA don't know they have it...

over 50,000 new case's each year....thats about 20 new each week in every state....again do Homosexuals use gloves when in contact with children....the public has a right to know...thank you


( it is a scientific fact that homosexuality and that act is the greatest cause by far......of the propagation of this deadly disease which anyone can easily get with a very small splash of blood.
No evidence to back up claims, invalid!
 
Old 07-14-2012, 03:39 PM
 
Location: TX
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Originally Posted by raison_d'etre View Post
No evidence to back up claims, invalid!
Precisely! You can't just go around typing whatever you want and expect thinking individuals to immediately believe you, lol.
 
Old 07-14-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas View Post
You cannot be this dense, therefore I assume you're deliberately creating this murky confusion as a tactic.

What the math shows is a significant 5-7 fold increased risk of a homosexual male assaulting a little boy compared to the risk posed by a heterosexual male assaulting little girls. This is just the extrapolated result from data that is not in dispute regarding incidence of molestation, the ratio of male/female victims, and the general estimate of the heterosexual/homosexual ratio of the male population. Math shows no bias .. it's just the numbers. The sad reality that men make up the majority of perpetrators, is just a sad reality, though it is not in any way a blanket indictment of all men, because only a very small percentage of men fall into this perverted and deranged category, with the vast majority of men having no such predisposition at all ... so your "well then only lesbians should be parents" is an asinine remark.

The major point that is apparently too much for you and others to acknowledge is that the ONLY concern decent people of any gender or sexual orientation should be concerned about is the safety of the children, and what reasonable measures can be taken to minimize their risks. No other concern should even make the list .. and certainly not this politically correct crap about protecting the image of homosexuals. That is obviously not the position held by the homosexual community in general, exemplified by the volume of lies and distortions which are focused so intently on disavowing any link between homosexual males and the molestation of boys. And this can only be explained by either extremely misplaced priorities in placing the public image of homosexual males ahead of the welfare of these children, or a veiled demonstration of support for sexual assault of children. There is no other explanation.

Sadly, the true answer is a combination of both. Unfortunately, there is a significant element within the homosexual community who want to deny what is actually occurring within a subset of their community out of fear of backlash from the heterosexual majority. What they apparently don't realize is that taking this approach will lead to exactly what they're trying to avoid .. as people are seeing through these lies and distortions. Then there is a smaller but still significant minority within the homosexual community who are obvious advocates of this vile conduct with children, and are not ashamed to be outspoken about that. Several of the so-called "professional experts" in the psychiatric community have openly promoted the idea that such adult-child sexual conduct is not damaging to these children ... while some even suggest it is healthy, and that the laws prohibiting this contact are actually a violation of children's sexual freedom. That's right, it isn't just NAMBLA doing this, but pro-homosexual members of the psychiatric community too. What you will never find is any group of heterosexuals advocating such disgusting nonsense, with all of it coming from nowhere other than the homosexual community. Make no mistake, people are beginning to see through these tactics of political correctness and the promotion of this deviate behavior, and that will ultimately be the source of extreme backlash, because people get real nasty when you start "fussing" with their children. The entire homosexual community is going to suffer major setbacks by this ill conceived tactic of denial, as the general population will ultimately be forced to conclude that this denial is nothing more than universal acceptance within the homosexual community of adult sex with children, and we're not going to stand for it! The gloves are going to come off eventually, and the backlash you fear will be swift, severe, and well earned by your own behavior. You'll have no one to blame but yourselves.



I'm not sure you're capable of getting anything straight, but if you are ... here's the first thing you need to get straight before anything else can ever sink in. These "studies" and these "experts" and their alleged scientific results are totally illegitimate ... they are biased, with predetermined conclusions that are not congruent with the known facts, but agenda driven. Much of this nonsense comes from the psychiatric community who have not an ounce of integrity to begin with. The American Psychiatric Association is so rife with bias, fraud and corruption, that it makes it's counterpart in mainstream physical medicine, or even that of the financial crooks on Wall Street look like bastions of integrity. Therefore, what comes out of that group cannot be accepted at face value, but requires extreme scrutiny and skepticism.

But some of this crap doesn't even require a great deal of evaluation, as it's inherent illegitimacy is obvious to the casual observer who possesses a couple of brain cells. Such as, the cited "study" that stated "98% of the perpetrators self-identified as heterosexual". Now does that sound like reasonable logic or sound scientific method to you? We are now going to dismiss the obvious nature of a male molesting another male, and simply take his claim of self identification as the scientific conclusion? If the criminal justice system worked that way, nobody would be in jail ... Judge: are you guilty of this crime? Perpetrator: No. Judge: Ok then, case dismissed. ? This is precisely what we have here ... an obviously mentally disturbed pervert pedophile child predator now establishing the facts to be reported as the conclusion of this study. If you don't see the problem here ... there is no hope for you coming to any rational conclusion about anything.

Some of these "experts" participating in these "studies" have written papers that openly advocate adult/child sexual contact ... so they have no credibility, given that obvious bias. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that!

The real question is ... Do you believe adults having sex with children is an acceptable practice? Yes or no? If the answer is yes ... then quit being a snake and say so. If the answer is no ... then you need to stop promoting this flagrant deception and condemn the perpetrators regardless of their orientation. There are no sacred cows .. no room for political correctness or protecting public images. There is only the protection of children ... and that starts with honesty about identifying who these perpetrators are.

HAHAHAHA... the amount of illogical banter in this post is crazy.

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These "studies" and these "experts" and their alleged scientific results are totally illegitimate ... they are biased, with predetermined conclusions that are not congruent with the known facts, but agenda driven. Much of this nonsense comes from the psychiatric community who have not an ounce of integrity to begin with. The American Psychiatric Association is so rife with bias, fraud and corruption, that it makes it's counterpart in mainstream physical medicine, or even that of the financial crooks on Wall Street look like bastions of integrity. Therefore, what comes out of that group cannot be accepted at face value, but requires extreme scrutiny and skepticism.
No, they aren't biased. Can you prove that they are? You made the claim, now back it up with some proof, unless you lack integrity.
 
Old 07-14-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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How many foster children have you taken in? How many of them are older, abuse victims, have special needs, or are minorities? My boyfriend is curious why you are advocating for a group who was likely to take in his best friend (Latino with cerebral palsy) and himself (physically and sexually abused, older than 6) out of the foster care system. As noted in my previous post, homosexuals are SIGNIFICANTLY more likely to foster or adopt children who have special needs, are older than 6, or are minorities. What have you done in your heterosexual environment to fix this problem?

You are PERSONALLY advocating a belief system that prevented a gay couples from saving my boyfriend and others he met in the foster care system from years of abuse, torment, homelessness, and eventual years in therapy because heterosexual families in general are not likely to adopt or foster "difficult" children. You are the one harming children, not homosexuals opening their homes.
Why do you shamelessly advocate for exposing children to child abuse(homosexual "homes")?

You are the one endangering children.

Shame on you.
 
Old 07-14-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Why do you shamelessly advocate for exposing children to child abuse(homosexual "homes")?

You are the one endangering children.

Shame on you.
So by answering my question with a fallacy, you are answering "no". Got ya.

Were you abused by a man as a child? Your need to insist that gay parenting is akin to child abuse speaks to abuse in your past. There's therapy for that.
 
Old 07-14-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by raison_d'etre View Post
HAHAHAHA... the amount of illogical banter in this post is crazy.



No, they aren't biased. Can you prove that they are? You made the claim, now back it up with some proof, unless you lack integrity.
Perhaps someone needs to use phallometric testing on GNT to find out what his true sexual interests are to show him how it works.

Like researchers did with all those 1000's of child sex offenders they studied. A rather glaring fact that he seems to keep missing.

I guess if he actually read any of the studies he disparages so easily, he might have picked up on that rather important factoid.

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Old 07-14-2012, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
Why do you shamelessly advocate for exposing children to child abuse(homosexual "homes")?

You are the one endangering children.

Shame on you.
Yeah shame on you...for not answering this question:

Gays and their desire to marry and raise children, affect me directly by:

1)
2)
3)
4)

Provide sources to back up your reasons.

Get to it, "College Boy".
 
Old 07-14-2012, 04:01 PM
 
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Come on guys..lets just stop. I'm pretty sure Harrier and Ed are just trolling nao.

All of these threads always become circlejerks anyways.
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