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Old 08-03-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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It would depend on a few things. How many conservative Democrats are elected to Congress, do they have 60 votes in the Senate, or do they change the rules to make it a simply majority rules in the Senate.

So, if those things happened, my guess would be some sort of grand bargain on cutting military spending, raising taxes, and cutting SS, Medicare, Medicaid, which might include changing the tax code, etc to reduce long term budget deficits. The democratic party including Nancy Pelosi who is probably the most powerful "liberal" in Washington were all on board with this plan if only the Republicans had of raised taxes. So I think if they get power they enact something like that.

I think there'd be another stimulus. Hopefully they'd close gitmo finally. Get us out of Afghanistan. Then they'd try to position Hiliary to win in 2016

This all could think of.
Good answer but I wonder what would happen with the deficit.

 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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If that tells you anything, in the land of Teddy's seat.
The crap must have really hit the fan, for a Progressive State as Massachusetts, to vote a repeal of what was going down on the Hill.
Makes you wonder what they know about their former Governor but haven't told America...
 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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Good answer but I wonder what would happen with the deficit.
budget deficit? If you raise taxes, and cut some spending, and have a growing economy the budget deficit will disappear.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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budget deficit? If you raise taxes, and cut some spending, and have a growing economy the budget deficit will disappear.
These three criteria have never existed at the same time:

1. Democratic control of the government (both houses of Congress and White House).

2. Tax increases.

3. Spending cuts.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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These three criteria have never existed at the same time:

1. Democratic control of the government (both houses of Congress and White House).

2. Tax increases.

3. Spending cuts.
Yes it did. During Bill clinton first terms the Democratic party passed a bill that included increased taxes and had spending cuts. This is an objective fact.

In fact the ACA healthcare bill that passed with only the votes of democrats included tax increases and cuts to Medicare. So you are factually wrong.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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Yes it did. During Bill clinton first terms the Democratic party passed a bill that included increased taxes and had spending cuts. This is an objective fact.

In fact the ACA healthcare bill that passed with only the votes of democrats included tax increases and cuts to Medicare. So you are factually wrong.
No. I am factually right.

Democrats have been trying to use that "we cut a certain program so that means there is a NET spending cut to the overall budget" scam since Slick Willie taught them how to do it.

When Clinton and Obama had both houses under their thumbs there were STILL increases to the overall Federal budget.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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No. I am factually right.

Democrats have been trying to use that "we cut a certain program so that means there is a NET spending cut to the overall budget" scam since Slick Willie taught them how to do it.

When Clinton and Obama had both houses under their thumbs there were STILL increases to the overall Federal budget.
This is the only way the federal government cuts spending is slowing the rate of growth of the budget. The democrats passed a bill that did just that. This is objective reality.
So it has happened.

And it happened again with ACA which increased taxes and cut 500million from Medicare only with the votes of Democrats.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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...and toss in 5 progressive Supreme Court Justices.

How would such a make-up of our government affect the United States after, say, two presidential terms like this?

I think America would more resemble this town...

Berkeley, California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We had it for two years with obama- it was a disaster.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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Jobs!!!!!
Well, there would certainly be an increased demand for lumberjacks, what with all the useless bureaucratic paper pushers the Democrats would hire for makework government jobs to claim that they're doing a great job with the economy....
 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:58 PM
 
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Yes it did. During Bill clinton first terms the Democratic party passed a bill that included increased taxes and had spending cuts. This is an objective fact.

In fact the ACA healthcare bill that passed with only the votes of democrats included tax increases and cuts to Medicare. So you are factually wrong.
Cutting funding for one department and then either raising funding for 4 others or creating a funding pool for a completely new one that needs to be funded in perpetuity going forward is not making a spending cut....
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