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Old 08-31-2012, 12:15 PM
 
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it sounds to me like YOU are the one that is closed minded and judgmental. what you dont understand is that chick-fil-a appreciation day was NOT about gay rights, it was about FREEDOM OF SPEECH. there were many gay people who attended the day because they too understood that the CEO ahs the right to say the thing he said. if government an take away the right of someone to say they are against gay marriage, the the right to free speech is gone for EVERYBODY. once you understand that, then you will truly understand what chick-fil-a appreciation day was really about.


Looks like you and anyone who attended "Chick Fil A appreciation day" FAILED to even know what the REAL hoopla was about.

Hint: It wasn't about what the guy said. That was the catalyst to expose the fact that the company DONATES MONEY (Which is ACTION, not just mere speech) to hate groups, groups that advocate and help support "death penality for gays in foreign countries" laws, and a host of other nasty things. THAT'S why the company was/is attacked and boycotted.


I don't know how many times you people need to be told this before it sinks in!!


If it was just one bigot executive spouting off, then whatever. Have at it. But ACTIONS have consequences more than words.


And yes: Fat, white religious whackjobs are no different than fat black religious whackjobs who "supported" Chick Fil A for the same thing! Knuckledragging yahoos come in all colors.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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They already have federal protection from being discriminated against.

Marriage is a state issue.

So what's the point?
Gays are not protected by any federal regulations against descrimination. Some states have passed their own laws to protect them but most have not.

So as a citizen of a State I have the right to actively push to get Gay Marriage recognized in my State and any other state. I don't remmber ANY Conservatives at all pushing for State Rights when Bush was trying to push through a constatutional Ammendment banning gay marriage. Funny how that works.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Sorry for posting this so long after the controversy. I moved and have been travelling a lot for work and haven't had the time.

I just want to say that Chick Fil A appreciation day really opened my eyes to the plight of Gays in this country. I drove by my neighberhood Chick Fil A and it was just packed full of people. And as I was looking at them I realized they all had a lot of similarities. All were white, none of them dressed well and all of them looked a little pudgy or were elderly. What you would typically associate with close minded bigoted people. But what struck me the most was how proud some of them looked to be standing there. Granted I'm sure that some people were there to support religous freedom but most of them were there because they don't like Gay people.

I thought to myself what a bunch of hypocrites. They say they want the Government out of their business yet they want the Government to legislate THEIR morality. I like millions of other people will never eat at CHick Fil A again. Also I now 100% support gay rights and will help advance them in anyway I can.
In other words, you happened upon a group of complete strangers in a restaurant, took one look at their outward appearance, didn't say a word to any of them... and then you made up a bunch of "thoughts" they were supposedly thinking, decided they must be thinking them, and came here to bash them for it?

No wonder you "support" the ginned-up fake "issue" of gay rights.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:32 PM
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They already have federal protection from being discriminated against.

Marriage is a state issue.

So what's the point?
In many states, you can be fired just for being gay.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Gays are not protected by any federal regulations against descrimination.
Under EEO (Equal Employment Opportunity) regulations it is forbidden to discriminate against someone because of sexual orientation.

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission

What other protections besides marriage are you concerned that gays don't have?
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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Sorry for posting this so long after the controversy. I moved and have been travelling a lot for work and haven't had the time.

I just want to say that Chick Fil A appreciation day really opened my eyes to the plight of Gays in this country. I drove by my neighberhood Chick Fil A and it was just packed full of people. And as I was looking at them I realized they all had a lot of similarities. All were white, none of them dressed well and all of them looked a little pudgy or were elderly. What you would typically associate with close minded bigoted people. But what struck me the most was how proud some of them looked to be standing there. Granted I'm sure that some people were there to support religous freedom but most of them were there because they don't like Gay people.

I thought to myself what a bunch of hypocrites. They say they want the Government out of their business yet they want the Government to legislate THEIR morality. I like millions of other people will never eat at CHick Fil A again. Also I now 100% support gay rights and will help advance them in anyway I can.
I love their food. It's the best chicken sandwiches around.
What do I care if some gay person is offended by their moral stance on gay issues?
It's not relative to me in any way.
I'm STRAIGHT and love the chicken.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Chick Fil A has had no influence on my opinion of gay people, because I strive to be a decent person who keeps his nose out of others' personal business. Also, I don't eat fast "food."
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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They say they want the Government out of their business yet they want the Government to legislate THEIR morality.
Uhhhh, that morality is already in the Constitution. Seems it's others who prefer a revised morality want to change that Constitution, or abandon it altogether.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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I don't think gays should be discriminated against in the workplace or hiring unless their sexual orientation hinders their job performance.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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Under EEO (Equal Employment Opportunity) regulations it is forbidden to discriminate against someone because of sexual orientation.

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission

What other protections besides marriage are you concerned that gays don't have?

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) does not enforce laws that prohibit discrimination and harassment based on sexual orientation, status as a parent, marital status and political affiliation. However, other federal agencies and many states and municipalities do. The relevant federal agencies are listed below. For assistance in locating your state or local agency, contact the EEOC office nearest you.


Discrimination Based on Sexual Orientation, Status as a Parent, Marital Status and Political Affiliation


Sexual Orientation Discrimination in the Workplace

Existing federal laws do not acknowledge a gay or lesbian worker’s right to work in a private sector workplace void of discrimination due to their sexual orientation. However, many states have enacted laws protected workers of all sexual orientations. Likewise, other civil rights afforded workers may be violated by employers promoting an environment that marginalizes workers because of their orientation, such as gender discrimination, racial discrimination, and others. Additionally, certain local laws protect workers’ rights to work in an environment free from discrimination based on their sexual orientation, and in many cases, large and small companies often have manuals prohibiting discrimination against other employees on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.


Discrimination in the Workplace | Lawfirms.com
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