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Old 10-12-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Yawn.

My medical degree is from Medical College of Ohio.

And yours?
I don't have one, My aunt however had Three, and used to work as a medical researcher at Miami Dade Medical Research dealing with physiology, and again, she had degrees in 3 medical fields.

Additionally, the 2 neuropsychologists, I went to along with the 3 psychiatrists, also had specialist degrees in the field of mental health.

And what is your degree in? Hand injuries associated with underwater basket weaving?

I know personally what it's like not having any control over impulse, not being able to stop tapping your foot, or hand, constantly moving from one activity to another without having really finished anything, setting my homework and lunch money on the table but forgetting to bring it to school.

Even to this day, I use a day planner and write things down, because it's so easy for me to forget from one moment to the next.

I also saw as a parent the deleterious effects of not having a proper treatment to address the problems associated with adhd. I also saw the real beneficial effects the medication had along with a proper treatment plan and IEP with the school.

Acting like an Ostrich and sticking your head in the ground and chanting, "It doesn't exist", doesn't make the problem go away.

There are actual studies aling with PET scan imaging, MRI and SPECT scans which show real developmental differences between the brain of someone with ADHD and someone without.

There are some people who have suggested that the differences shown in pet scan were because of meds that the people were on, however a number of test subject who exhibited ADHD characteristics were scanned without any meds in them, and they displayed the same attributes as this who were medicated to help control the effects of adhd.

Structural Neurology and the Differences in the ADHD Brain

Brain Imaging Data of ADHD - Psychiatric Times
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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I have said in the past and I will say it again. ADHD does NOT exist. It's a disorder that was created by money-grubbing doctors to make a million dollar industry off adults and children with extremely upbeat and active personalities. It's natural for them to be the way they are! The human race is made up of billions of people. We are not all made to be boring and slow. People with ADHD were made to be that way to entertain the rest of us. Like all people, as children, they need to be disciplined to turn out into functioning normal adults who can contain themselves appropriately.
as a 43 year old who is both dyslexic and ADHD, the C-D Terms of Service preclude me from calling you what I should.

ADHD is real. It is something I have had to overcome in my life and I can say with 100% certainty that early childhood education was a nightmare for me and my teachers until third grade when I had a veteran teacher who understood what was going on. I took meds in the 1970s for "hyperactivity" and went from failing to honor roll.


YOU dont know what you are talking about. YOU have theories based on little more than what comes out of the back end of an elephant.

I however have lived the dream. Thank God for the meds that got me on track and gave me the time to learn to cope and learn.

geez. climb back under your rock.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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as a 43 year old who is both dyslexic and ADHD, the C-D Terms of Service preclude me from calling you what I should.

ADHD is real. It is something I have had to overcome in my life and I can say with 100% certainty that early childhood education was a nightmare for me and my teachers until third grade when I had a veteran teacher who understood what was going on. I took meds in the 1970s for "hyperactivity" and went from failing to honor roll.


YOU dont know what you are talking about. YOU have theories based on little more than what comes out of the back end of an elephant.

I however have lived the dream. Thank God for the meds that got me on track and gave me the time to learn to cope and learn.

geez. climb back under your rock.
Glad to see you made it, you have/had the same problems I faced, and for those of us who have faced it personally, we know.

too bad I can't rep
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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The issue is not if adhd is real. It is! My son has it, well he has asbergers which starts out being dianosed as adhd. The question is drug or not to drug. I am here to tell you that is not the only 2 options. The brain is misfiring in these kids and the drugs slow that down but finding the right vitamins that the brain is missing does the same thing but with less side effects. The problem with drugs is the snow ball effect. You start off with one and keep adding for the side effects of the other drug(s). We used to have our son on riddlin and then adderal. He couldnt sleep at night when the drugs wore off so they gave him something to help him sleep, then he would have issues with anger that he didnt have before so they gave him something for that. Etc etc. we stopped it all! 2 years ago! He is a much happerier kid and his grades have gone up. We took him out of the best public school system in the state and into a private school and added meliton for at night and a strict vitamin protical. We are very happy.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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The issue is not if adhd is real. It is! My son has it, well he has asbergers which starts out being dianosed as adhd. The question is drug or not to drug. I am here to tell you that is not the only 2 options. The brain is misfiring in these kids and the drugs slow that down but finding the right vitamins that the brain is missing does the same thing but with less side effects. The problem with drugs is the snow ball effect. You start off with one and keep adding for the side effects of the other drug(s). We used to have our son on riddlin and then adderal. He couldnt sleep at night when the drugs wore off so they gave him something to help him sleep, then he would have issues with anger that he didnt have before so they gave him something for that. Etc etc. we stopped it all! 2 years ago! He is a much happerier kid and his grades have gone up. We took him out of the best public school system in the state and into a private school and added meliton for at night and a strict vitamin protical. We are very happy.
You are talking about orthomolecular medicine. Fixing/healing by utilizing vitamins/minerals to replace what the body lacks, to bring it back in "alignment", or (Megavitamin Therapy). This works some of the time, depending on the cause and severity of the ADHD.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Yawn.

My medical degree is from Medical College of Ohio.

And yours?
Two things I love about the web:

1) On the internet, you can be anybody you want to be. For example, a 40-something mother from flyover country can pretend to be a astronaut, a famous singer, or an African princess. Likewise, a young, 20-something, wannabe know-it-all, part-time grad student with a B.A. in sociology who's probably never even darkened the door of Toledo's Medical College of Ohio, much less graduated, can pretend to be a doctor, so he can berate parents for using meds to help their children.

2) The internet provides numerous way to uncover deception.

The big tip-off was your link to Natural News. Next time, choose something more credible.

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Old 10-12-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I got my ass tore up.

That was my ADHD & ADD medicine.

Worked like a charm.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I got my ass tore up.

That was my ADHD & ADD medicine.

Worked like a charm.
Then you didn't have ADHD.

I got mine tore up 1-2-3 times a week at school, and sometimes daily at home. When a person no matter how hard they try has no control whatsoever, that's a warning sign. We aren't talking no control, cause they WANT something, we are talking about even when they are trying to control themselves and it's not possible.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Ericka Sóuter I have always been astonished by the number of kids diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder -- especially boys. Nearly 10 percent of children 4 to 14 reportedly have ADHD. That's 5.4 million kids!

Drugging Your 'ADHD' Kid Could Be Lazy Parenting | The Stir
Which is why I told my sons teacher in FL to suck a fat one. (talking about a cigar of course )

My sons bright, so he requires something to keep him busy. His teacher didn't do that. He had bad days almost every day. Had a parent teacher conference, then the guidance counselor saw the words he was reading and said he needed to be in the gifted program, which his teacher blocked by the card changes she gave him.

This year, new school, great district, different state, he is excelling, best kid in his class on his behavior and no issues, but he's kept busy and challenged.

Don't drug your kids just because your dumb ass teacher says you should.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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I didn't. It was obvious that there was something going on with my son long before he began attending school, and his father and I initiated the diagnostic process when he was in second grade. Not once did any of his teachers approach me about medicating him. At this point, thanks to a low dose of Concerta and lots of one-on-one attention from his parents he's doing much better in school and no longer requires accommodations. His current teacher isn't even aware that he takes Concerta.

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