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Old 10-12-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I am curious did you find the meds helped? Doesn't really sound like it did. Did the meds effect you in other ways? I have heard people claim positive results, but other life quality issues. I have also seen those who were far better off w/o the meds. I am curious about your experience.

The issue with most meds is they don't really correct the problem they just help manage it and the trade off is the effect of long term medication on the body.
I was able to focus. I was able to finish tasks. My grades went to straight A's. People no longer avoided me.

My quality of life did nothing but get better and better. Plus, I no longer required spankings 1-2-3 times a week or more. I was able to focus on things, all my teachers noticed a difference within the first 2 days, I went from being the bad kid who was always in trouble and everyone's parent told their kids to avoid because I was a bad influence, to the straight A student, that people wanted to associate with.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:30 PM
 
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I have said in the past and I will say it again. ADHD does NOT exist. It's a disorder that was created by money-grubbing doctors to make a million dollar industry off adults and children with extremely upbeat and active personalities. It's natural for them to be the way they are! The human race is made up of billions of people. We are not all made to be boring and slow. People with ADHD were made to be that way to entertain the rest of us. Like all people, as children, they need to be disciplined to turn out into functioning normal adults who can contain themselves appropriately.
Don't know how to break it to you, but I've elected to medicate my kids so you'll have to be entertained elsewhere.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:50 AM
 
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Ericka Sóuter I have always been astonished by the number of kids diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder -- especially boys. Nearly 10 percent of children 4 to 14 reportedly have ADHD. That's 5.4 million kids!
Yes its mostly BS to make $$$$$$ and get them on crap they dont need!
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:58 AM
 
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I have worked with a man for 20 years who has the most severe case of ADHD I have ever seen. It is usually not evident in adults because by the time they reach adulthood, they have been able to institute coping mechanisms to work around their ADHD or they get into jobs that are not affected by ADHD as much. He is 61 years old and he has been using Ritalin since 1985.

He struggled all his life in school: socially and academically, although he is whipsmart. He had all sorts of things done to him by the medical community thinking there was something else wrong with him. I won't go into all the troubles he went through as an adult trying to work, but there were many. At some point, he youngest child started having similar difficulties in school. By this time, there was help out there. His son was diagnosed with ADHD and medicated and improved. It was then, this man started to think: this is what I have had all my life. He went to be evaluated and has been treated ever since. His life has remarkably turned around. He can focus, he is happy, he isn't have all of the problems that he used to have at work, and he can control himself "socially" and does much better in that area.

I work with this man everyday and, periodically, his doctor has him go on a 2-week drug holiday where he is unmedicated. It is just fascinating to watch. For that 2 weeks, he can no longer keep up with his tasks at work--in fact, he can barely get one of them done versus the twenty he might have. His driving habits are even different--much more reckless. His social skills drop noticeably and sometimes he's just very awkward.

He has the most severe case I've ever seen and it is greatly improved by the medication. For anyone who doesn't believe in it, just hanging around this guy would change your mind. It saddens me of how much his potential was thwarted without treatment for most of his life. He really is so smart.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I got my ass tore up.

That was my ADHD & ADD medicine.

Worked like a charm.
ADD=Ass-whipping Deprivation Disorder.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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ADD=Ass-whipping Deprivation Disorder.
LOL at thinking all (or any) kids respond to ^this.
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:31 AM
 
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I came across this article in the NY Times. Apparently this guy prescribes medicine for kids he knows don't have it because he feels it will help them get better grades. So now hey if you don't even have anything wrong with you we'll drug you up to get better grades. So his attitude is the schools are bad and the kids are getting bad grades so we should drug em and see if it helps. Honestly this guy should be jailed.

"The pills boost focus and impulse control in children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Although A.D.H.D is the diagnosis Dr. Anderson makes, he calls the disorder “made up” and “an excuse” to prescribe the pills to treat what he considers the children’s true ill — poor academic performance in inadequate schools.
“I don’t have a whole lot of choice,” said Dr. Anderson, a pediatrician for many poor families in Cherokee County, north of Atlanta. “We’ve decided as a society that it’s too expensive to modify the kid’s environment. So we have to modify the kid.”



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/he...anted=all&_r=0
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:35 AM
 
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I was able to focus. I was able to finish tasks. My grades went to straight A's. People no longer avoided me.

My quality of life did nothing but get better and better. Plus, I no longer required spankings 1-2-3 times a week or more. I was able to focus on things, all my teachers noticed a difference within the first 2 days, I went from being the bad kid who was always in trouble and everyone's parent told their kids to avoid because I was a bad influence, to the straight A student, that people wanted to associate with.
This is good to hear. Have you observed side-effects? Have you needed to change meds?
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:44 AM
 
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I came across this article in the NY Times. Apparently this guy prescribes medicine for kids he knows don't have it because he feels it will help them get better grades. So now hey if you don't even have anything wrong with you we'll drug you up to get better grades. So his attitude is the schools are bad and the kids are getting bad grades so we should drug em and see if it helps. Honestly this guy should be jailed.

"The pills boost focus and impulse control in children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Although A.D.H.D is the diagnosis Dr. Anderson makes, he calls the disorder “made up” and “an excuse” to prescribe the pills to treat what he considers the children’s true ill — poor academic performance in inadequate schools.
“I don’t have a whole lot of choice,” said Dr. Anderson, a pediatrician for many poor families in Cherokee County, north of Atlanta. “We’ve decided as a society that it’s too expensive to modify the kid’s environment. So we have to modify the kid.”



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/he...anted=all&_r=0
Sadly, the environment is what it is. Govt schools can tend to be slow to changes. For example, in NY, I believe, they found in a study children suffering from sleep deprivation with cognitive issues. They finally decided to change the school schedule to be later and found improvements in many areas. What passes for education is sad in some cases.

Here is an example. I have seen school policy changes which absolutely fit govt profile. Tardies (no matter a few minutes or not) would become absences rather quickly, those then could fail you quite quickly. The reason given for this was to improve algebra grades. Seriously? This is called govt doing the thing it seems to do repeatedly expecting a different outcome. That the right amount of authority solves all issues, it doesn't hurt that they also receive funding based on attendance.

The issue with meds is that they have implications and effects long term. They manage problems, they don't really correct them. Like eyeglasses for instance. They help you to see, but you are dependent and usually vision declines as you depend more and more on glasses. Anything you take long term is important to not dismiss.

I was trying to find the study. Anyway, there is more information on this all the time.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...sleep-related/
http://nymag.com/news/features/38951/
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The performance gap caused by an hour’s difference in sleep was bigger than the normal gap between a fourth-grader and a sixth-grader. Which is another way of saying that a slightly sleepy sixth-grader will perform in class like a mere fourth-grader. “A loss of one hour of sleep is equivalent to [the loss of] two years of cognitive maturation and development,” Sadeh explains.

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Old 10-14-2012, 04:32 AM
 
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Giving the meds to improve grades is just stupid. If you do not have ADHD the medication won't work in the same way for you. It will just act as a stimulant--it will not help the brain "organize." I do not have ADHD but I was allowed to try the medication and it did not have that effect on me at all. I never felt better organized, more pulled together, or more focused because I wasn't having issues to begin with.

What is interesting about the medication, though, is that is has a very safe drug profile and has been given in low doses to seniors for depression.
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