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So go to Portugal and addict yourself and family and use endlessly. Go for it!
Meanwhile we here in the USA should call crap what it is and work to especially keep kids from it.
Whoever said drugs weren't crap? I don't use drugs. I simply see the folly of keeping them illegal, while overstuffing the prisons.
Prohibition doesn't work. It's as simple as that. Keeping drugs illegal is simply funding mini (and not so mini) armies for cartels who are taking over entire regions of countries, one of which is on our border (that's Mexico, so you can keep up).
Legalize drugs. Put a sin tax on them. Make some cash for the country and stop financing cartels in one fell swoop.
Meanwhile we here in the USA should call crap what it is and work to especially keep kids from it.
Oh, I do. I keep my kids out of church.
But I wouldn't want to see churches made illegal. Lots of crap is legal in a free country, like religion, NASCAR and Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo. Most drugs ought to be in that category.
Technically, illegal drugs were not legalized in Portugal. Basically what they did was change the penalty for possession of <10 days' supply from prison to fines, and the fines can be pretty stiff money-wise depending on the amount in ones' possession.
So before you cokeheads go packing your bags to move to Portugal you better understand that you're still going to get beaned really good for possession.
Drug warriors have made sure that drug prohibition is so ingrained into our culture that it will be almost impossible to get rid of it. The sad fact is that a lot of people make a lot of money keeping drugs illegal - cops, judges, attorneys, non-profits, drug rehab centers kept afloat by court mandated treatment, etc.
Like some of the posters on this thread illustrate, the war on drugs is not based in reason but on propaganda and fear mongering. Anytime someone has to drag out the "its for the children" rationale, you know they have nothing substantial to offer.
For many drug warriors, the war on drugs has very little to do with drugs and is more about keeping the cash flowing.
Cheech and Chong had it right way back in the 70s. The better the bust, the bigger the boost (to one's career and or bank account).
Technically, illegal drugs were not legalized in Portugal. Basically what they did was change the penalty for possession of <10 days' supply from prison to fines, and the fines can be pretty stiff money-wise depending on the amount in ones' possession.
So before you cokeheads go packing your bags to move to Portugal you better understand that you're still going to get beaned really good for possession.
True. Even smoking pot is still illegal, but not 'criminalized'.
Not sure where the article got their data, because it contradicts the official numbers since decriminalization:
- lifetime use of "all illicit drugs" increased from 7.8% to 12%,
- lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%,
- cocaine use more than doubled, from 0.9% to 1.9%,
- ecstasy nearly doubled from 0.7% to 1.3%,
- heroin increased from 0.7% to 1.1%
Worked well after prohibition also. Alcohol went up during that, and down after its repeal.
Of course, facts have never been the problem for those who oppose prohibition, its peoples self perception, which came into being because of government propaganda.
Worked well after prohibition also. Alcohol went up during that, and down after its repeal.
Of course, facts have never been the problem for those who oppose prohibition, its peoples self perception, which came into being because of government propaganda.
You are quoting a myth, not facts. Alcohol use plummeted by as much as 70% during the prohibition. The law was repealed because the popular vote was 75% for repeal (three to one).
You are quoting a myth, not facts. Alcohol use plummeted by as much as 70% during the prohibition. The law was repealed because the popular vote was 75% for repeal (three to one).
Initially fell by 10% in the first two years, but after the first two years, it increased to more then 70% higher then the pre-prohibition alcohol consumption.
Proving, once again, that when you tell people no, they'll do it to spite you.
Initially fell by 10% in the first two years, but after the first two years, it increased to more then 70% higher then the pre-prohibition alcohol consumption.
Proving, once again, that when you tell people no, they'll do it to spite you.
Your own link confirms what I said. It says the use initially fell to 30% of the pre-prohibition use (70% reduction), and later rose to 60-70% of pre-prohibition use. So, even at its highest, it was still only 60-70% of what it was before the ban.
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We find that alcohol consumption fell sharply at the beginning of Prohibition, to approximately 30 percent of its pre-Prohibition level. During the next several years, however, alcohol consumption increased sharply, to about 60-70 percent of its pre-Prohibition level
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