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I believe it is YOU that is off base. Firstly, I don't trust their "own" website. If they can't manage the money, why would I believe their projections.
The CBO begs to differ with their views on solvency, by the way.
He has offered something! Can you not read? He's offering to cut benefits by 7% using the chained CPI method. And you want your SS cuts by 20% using the Ryan plan?.....LOL
He offered it AFTER he got back into office or doesn't that matter to you ?
What if he proposed this to counter Ryan's proposal during the campaign ?
How well do you think that would have gone over with the public ?
Obama is sly as a fox and with knowledge of how the Constitution works will get everything he wants, one way or another.
Yep. Do you recall me saying that Obama winning re-election was probably the best thing that could happen for the Republicans?
You mean republicans would have hated to have Romney instead?
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His track-record is of caving to the republicans.
If working on a compromise is that. But then, we do know how dirty that compromise word is now in politics. It automatically qualifies one as being incompetent and weak.
They won't apply it to current retirees. It will almost assuredly have a grandfather clause. They just voted to cut their kids/grandkids benefits only. I couldn't look my kids in the eye if I voted for politicians who would cut their retirement safety net.
Judging from the threads, I'm guessing a lot of people stopped taking their meds.
I don't see where anyone's benefit was cut.
Are you going to present any facts, or just rant?
Why don't we start with Inflation, how the different types of Inflation are defined, what causes each type of Inflation, what solutions exist for each type of Inflation, and then after that we can discuss the Substitution Effect.
And then we can discuss the CPI.
Are you capable of doing that, or is that asking too much because it's way over your head?
Their backs are up against the wall and the US is broke and going deeper into debt.
It's call AUSTERITY and you thought it would never come here.
We warned you but you didn't listen.
Who are you talking to? I knew this was coming long before the election? I started threads on this topic several years ago. I knew it was coming .
I'm fine here guy. Living in Southlake Tx, with high income, multiple investment accounts, and debt free.
I'm just watching this 30 year old, slow motion car wreck take place, while idiotic, low paid whites tell me they need their SS benefits cut by 7% because we all need "austerity"......
While you are all bickering D vs R in this (and I believe this is a bipartisan effort) the losers are future generations that have no pensions, lackluster 401Ks and will rely on SS as their primary retirement income.
With all the money the government spends on non-essential programs and services you'd think they'd trim the fat first.
But no...SS goes right on the chopping table first.
Cut retirees but God forbid Egypt doesn't get their $2 billion plus a year, etc.
He offered it AFTER he got back into office or doesn't that matter to you ?
What if he proposed this to counter Ryan's proposal during the campaign ?
How well do you think that would have gone over with the public ?
Obama is sly as a fox and with knowledge of how the Constitution works will get everything he wants, one way or another.
He hinted long before the election he was willing to cut SS benefits. He even alluded to it in the debates.
I'm not defending Obama, He's as worse as the GOP Congressman you vote for.
You mean republicans would have hated to have Romney instead?
If working on a compromise is that. But then, we do know how dirty that compromise word is now in politics. It automatically qualifies one as being incompetent and weak.
No it's not caving. Because Obama wants this. He wants to look good in the eyes of the rich elites that own this country and make those on SS take a 7% cut.
You are confused if you think this is the best deal possible. There is no popular will to cut SS benefits. Surveys show lifting the tax cap on high incomes is the overwhelming choice when people know it is an option.
While you are all bickering D vs R in this (and I believe this is a bipartisan effort) the losers are future generations that have no pensions, lackluster 401Ks and will rely on SS as their primary retirement income.
With all the money the government spends on non-essential programs and services you'd think they'd trim the fat first.
But no...SS goes right on the chopping table first.
Cut retirees but God forbid Egypt doesn't get their $2 billion plus a year, etc.
No crap? Of course it's bipartisan. (We can use your definition that calls for only 1 Dem to vote with the GOP) And the only faction fighting for what is right are liberal Democrats. But they are outnumbered. 100% of the GOP is rotten and 75% of the Dems are are owned by corporations.
Now that we have that out of the way. Why don't you give credit where credit is due to the people that will vote against this because it harms the middle class and poor? Like the liberal Barry Sanders of Vermont?
bs. As I said, "compromise" is a no-no, when extremists are at play.
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