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Old 01-02-2013, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Would you consider a private citizen defending his property, by force, from a government confiscating his firearms and stripping his 2nd amendment rights a "domestic terrorist"?
Seeing that no one is coming to take away your guns, if you attack the government out of that fear, then yes you are a domestic terrorist.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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IIRC correctly the media ridiculed the militia threat to death shortly after the Oklahoma bombing.

I remember how incredibly foolish these would be Red Dawners appeared in the news segments.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:16 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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No, nothing so grand. Merely a criminal.
This great country was created by a very smart group of men who were seen as criminals by some, they created what most said could never work and they recognized rights that many of us hold very dear to this day.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's fantasy of course. A satisfying one for these people, certainly: the ultimate revenge against all the egghead effete coastal elites who look down their over-educated noses at them and their fly-over culture.

But certainly, if such bans were ever introduced in law, the vast majority would simply obey, grudgingly perhaps, but obey all the same. A small minority would actually resist, but their "civil war" would begin and end with a SWAT team, clouds of teargas, a long prison sentence and miserable obscurity.

A perp walk in an orange jumpsuit is something much more ignoble than a dream of Marse Robert astride Traveler raising his hat in salute while the Stars and Bars ripple in the breeze and the brave battalions in butternut serge rush the Federal lines.

But yes, the fact that so many seem to entertain these Armageddon fantasies does strongly suggest that gun ownership is for them a symptom of a psychosis.
Thank you for this post because that is exactly how their "civil war" would go.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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No, nothing so grand. Merely a criminal.
So now it is criminal to have any sort of resolve and commitment to protect your own constitutional rights?

You are brainwashed, and you are exactly the type of person a government tries to mold.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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Remember, the gov. is always here to help. No need to fear the government.

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Old 01-02-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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You, like many others assume that US military members would attack their own people, which most would not. In addition, maybe you should ask the terrorist we've been fighting in Afghanistan for years how they've been successful against that trillion dollar US military. We haven't exactly seen a victory over there you know.
You suppose that the gunslingers would be able to organize sufficient resistance to require the civil power to summon the aid of the armed forces. But in all probability, nothing remotely close to that would be necessary; we have civilian police forces perfectly capable of dealing with armed criminals. They do it all the time.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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Confiscation won't be necessary to neutralize small arms in the future. That will be done by a combination of surveillance/remote detection technology and automated response technology. The fundamental elements of such systems already exist in their early forms; advances in computation and machine intelligence protocols will take them a lot further.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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This great country was created by a very smart group of men who were seen as criminals by some, they created what most said could never work and they recognized rights that many of us hold very dear to this day.
And since the 1770s, the capability of the police has increased considerably. But by all means, don't take my word for it - please conduct your own experiment.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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You suppose that the gunslingers would be able to organize sufficient resistance to require the civil power to summon the aid of the armed forces. But in all probability, nothing remotely close to that would be necessary; we have civilian police forces perfectly capable of dealing with armed criminals. They do it all the time.
If the government wasn't scared of armed resistance from it's citizens it wouldn't be trying to ban the weapons that scare them the most.

Let's face it, most American soldiers would never raise a rifle on their neighbors, family members and friends who are simply defending their rights. Gun owners aren't out looking for a fight, they're not talking about attacking anyone.
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