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No, I mean the ones the GOP needs to convince to vote for them if they ever hope to win another election.
The "founders" don't vote - they're dead. (Sorry to break it to you just like that, but you can take it, I know you're strong)
Those so-called normal people who believe in liberalism? They aren't normal to me.
Oh for Pete's sake, you have never heard the term "our founding fathers must be rolling in their graves" before? Yet you feel the need to say that they are dead and can't vote? Gee, really Einstein?
[quote=MUTGR;27919909The GOP won a historic landslide in the house in November 2010 and in the various state races that year, hardly ancient history. .[/quote]
And got hammered for the 2nd staright time for POTUS; losing 5 of 6 POTUS popular votes over 24 years.
To retake the cities, the GOP needs to get the Republican governors to move the welfare offices to the suburbs. It is too easy for deadbeats to roll out of bed and go stand in line for their food pellet instead of an employment line.
How about moving the welfare people to the country where they can work on farms and let the educated and employable take over the better apartments in the cities where most work anyway?
Sounds like a pretty damned good way to be rid of people, who you don't like, while not quite sending them to prison.
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Rural whites in this country are slowly becoming the white equivalent of black urban ghettoes.... insular pockets of folks increasingly isolated from the mainstream and ever more dependent on help from the guv-mint to survive (no matter how much they deny it). And just like their urban counterparts, rural white poverty is even becoming multi-generational and a way of life now. Even our military is becoming disproportionately represented by poor rural whites, simply because its usually the only decent local job opportunity available right out of H.S.
So if the GOP needs to work harder for urban votes, by the same token the Dems need to promote more outreach to rural folks, with more programs like Vista and Americorps, low cost nationwide internet access along with more online education programs aimed at rural folks, and even bring back some New Deal work programs. The urban/rural voting divide is only a symptom that we're slowly drifting apart as a country, and it ain't healthy!
Rural whites in this country are slowly becoming the white equivalent of black urban ghettoes.... insular pockets of folks increasingly isolated from the mainstream and ever more dependent on help from the guv-mint to survive (no matter how much they deny it). And just like their urban counterparts, rural white poverty is even becoming multi-generational and a way of life now. Even our military is becoming disproportionately represented by poor rural whites, simply because its usually the only decent local job opportunity available right out of H.S.
So if the GOP needs to work harder for urban votes, by the same token the Dems need to promote more outreach to rural folks, with more programs like Vista and Americorps, low cost nationwide internet access along with more online education programs aimed at rural folks, and even bring back some New Deal work programs. The urban/rural voting divide is only a symptom that we're slowly drifting apart as a country, and it ain't healthy!
We do need to help them adapt to the century they live in. During the mid to late 20th century, parents with limited education helped and urged their kids to do better than they had, and obtain more education than they had. In rural American counties, quite often that motivation for the kids to do better is not there. It's as if they expect 1948 to come back, with tons of no skill required jobs coming back for their families.
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We do need to help them adapt to the century they live in. During the mid to late 20th century, parents with limited education helped and urged their kids to do better than they had, and obtain more education than they had. In rural American counties, quite often that motivation for the kids to do better is not there. It's as if they expect 1948 to come back, with tons of no skill required jobs coming back for their families.
Yup, and a lot of that is cultural IMO, with attitudes towards acquiring education (becoming a ''city boy'' or an ''educated elite''), that aren't much different than the self-imposed barriers of black urban culture (''acting white''). Changing population demographics are obviously benefiting Democrats and marginalizing conservative rural voters, but in the end regardless whether Dem or Republican, we're all really paying for the growing federal dependency of rural white voters... who as we know, are still the largest consumers of welfare.
Of course part of the problem is the GOP benefits from maintaining the rural/urban ''divide'' (by cultivating ''resentments'', the ''culture wars'', ''flyover country'', etc.), even if those same benefits offer ''diminishing returns''. But as with the ''rust belt'' phenomenon, new technology and education are key these days to adapting to the ''new economy''. And instead of writing off rural whites or waiting for the GOP to make more inroads among cities and minorities, Dems could help break the cycle of poverty (and ignorance), by bringing more tech to the ''country'', for example with entry-level green tech job opportunities & training. And today's trained cable internet, wind farm and solar panel installer, could also be tomorrow's rural progressive voter.
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