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Old 01-28-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Explain this then..
Minor v. Happersett,
1. It was a suffrage case, not a citizenship case.

2. It makes no effort to define natural born citizen.

3. It (unlike WKA) has never once been cited as precedent on any issue regarding citizenship by ant subsequent court.

4. Anything it did say regarding citizenship would have been superseded by US v. Wong Kim Ark.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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This is appalling what I heard this morning from a segment on CBS News 'Sunday Morning'. It was truly Marxist. It was like it was ghost written by Barack Obama himself. What was spewed was totally un-American. The reason the framers wanted a true natural born Citizen inserted into Article 2 Section 1, the presidential clause, was for a purpose...........Loyalty. It was to assure that a future president would be born with sole allegiance to the United States. It was to prevent him from having split allegiances with other foreign sovereign governments in case said person was born to foreign subjects that could disrupt his singular loyalty to America. After all, the framers lived in a time when America just won a war for their independence. It's really common sense and very logical why they wanted a future president that was a true American born to two U.S. citizen parents that would guarantee sole allegiance to the United States at birth. The 'Office Of The Presidency' is the only office in American government that calls for a special specific kind of citizenship to hold that one patriotic position. A simple 'born Citizen' on U.S. soil is not enough. For people to disregard the framers original intent as well as the Constitution in today's times, and to disregard that a president not be a natural born Citizen is putting this country and its national security in serious danger.............and it already is due to this type of Marxist mentality.


Please listen to this treachery in the video:
Professor: Take our country back, from the Constitution - CBS News
How to tell if you are a right wing nut:

1. Use terms like marxist or socialist liberally (just not too liberally) even if you don't really know what they mean.

2. Call others that don't agree with you names like children at recess (maybe a time outs in order).

3. When presented with facts resort to fantasy...or shoot the messenger.

4. Rinse and repeat until your brain is thoroughly washed.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:53 AM
 
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Let's here the spin
no spin needed.

the argument has been presented in court multiple times ( usually, but not exclusively, by mario apuzzo )....... and lost every time.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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What is specifically Marxist about it? Did Marx theorize on presidential eligibility or the nature of and distinctions between different types of citizenship? Please explain.
Marxism is the science of personless personism.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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Explain this then..
Minor v. Happersett,
i think the best explanation was already used in this thread.........




You keep using that word. - YouTube
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Let's here the spin
Assuming that you meant "hear," Leo Donofrio was the first birther lawyer to get to the Supreme Court, and he got there on the merits without any hurdle of standing. The case was Donofrio v. Wells. That was the argument he made.

SCOTUS told him to go pound sand.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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Your link does a good job of explaining it, but in a nutshell, Mrs Minor wanted to vote. She tried to register to vote, but the state of Missouri did not allow women to vote at that time, so the registrar refused her. She sued him, because voting is a privilege of citizenship, and she was a citizen. The court agreed that she was a citizen, and the court agreed that voting is a privilege of citizenship, but the court determined that the states did have the power to determine the qualifications for the privilege of suffrage, and that Missouri was within its rights to bar women from voting. Until the Constitution was amended to qualify women to vote, Missouri could refuse them that privilege. Minor V Happersett explained.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:02 AM
 
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How to tell if you are a progressive nut:

1. Use terms like racist or conspiracy nut liberally.
2. Call others that don't agree with you names like children at recess, which is exactly what they do.
3. When presented with facts, resort to fantasy...or shoot the messenger.
4. Rinse and repeat until your brain is thoroughly washed.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:02 AM
 
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.... if we had a president that we found was not qualified to be president then impeachment might not be the exact thing to do..
impeachment is the only solution in that scenario under the US constitution.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It was actually put their to prevent Alexander Hamilton from being President.
^^This. I have read that before. People tend to think of the Founding Fathers as deity, but they were human connivers like all the rest of us.
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