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Old 02-03-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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Most likely it reverts back to the state. I remember [back in the day]driving through "poorer" states and the highways were like backwoods.

If you lived in a "poor" state you would be SOL.
I remember driving in NY state last year visiting family and the roads were in horrible shape despite the huge taxes in that state which are supposed to fix those roads.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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You mean the elitist liberal scum from the cities wouldn't spend their vacation time in the country anymore? What a shame.
Yeah, because without the income... they'd have to live in the city as well. Which by the way is one of the reasons that people flee the country and move to the city to begin with.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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Most likely it reverts back to the state. I remember [back in the day]driving through "poorer" states and the highways were like backwoods.

If you lived in a "poor" state you would be SOL.
Um, but that's not Libertarianism.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:45 AM
 
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As for "services" I believe most of them would be covered by private investment or by voluntary subscription.
I always get a chuckle out this sort of comment. We tried, for example privately run fire departments back in the 19th century. What people got for their money were fire departments that engaged in fist fights over who would fight the fire - while the building burned - and gangs of extortionist enforcing subscriptions/protection rackets. That is why we have municipal fire departments.

If there was money to be made in most of the services that government provides rural America would still be without electricity.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I remember driving in NY state last year visiting family and the roads were in horrible shape despite the huge taxes in that state which are supposed to fix those roads.
Depends on the state and it depends on how the road maintenance is handled, on the Jersey side the roads are much better and taxed just as much.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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Depends on the state and it depends on how the road maintenance is handled, on the Jersey side the roads are much better and taxed just as much.
Texas roads are better without all the taxes
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Texas roads are better without all the taxes
Oh they still get you through other avenues, don't worry if you are driving on nice roads you are definitely paying for them one way or another. Don't think those roads are being paved for free or out of the kindness of one's heart.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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Oh they still get you through other avenues, don't worry if you are driving on nice roads you are definitely paying for them one way or another. Don't think those roads are being paved for free or out of the kindness of one's heart.
Texas gets you with their property taxes - they're far and away the highest in the nation (3 times Colorado's property tax rate for instance).
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Texas gets you with their property taxes - they're far and away the highest in the nation (3 times Colorado's property tax rate for instance).
That is a good question, I know New Jersey is really high too.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: City of Angels
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the road system in the US is extremely expensive to maintain, gas taxes don't even come close to covering the cost. requires heavy subsidization from other revenue sources. pretty clear such an expansive network would not exist in a more libertarian society, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. the US has subsidized one form of transport (auto/roads) in favor of everything else for far too long.
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