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Old 02-08-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Then, according to you, we have no chance of ever getting away from the socialist system we are so near right now. Is this because those millenials will accept all the "gifts" from the government until the source of money dries up when the wealthy have been bled dry? How will those people continue to eat if someone doesn't supply the money to them? When will they awaken, about 10 seconds before they die of starvation?
No not according to me. This is according to Margaret Hoover and the case studies.

I voted for obama but I still didn't get my "gift" yet. Darn I've been lied to!!

Socialist system in the US? Go look up socialism.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I absolutely think that business confidence would have transformed overnight with the election of Mitt Romney. To understand business, is to understand risk and confidence. It's all about the fundamentals, and Mitt Romney was far beyond Barack Obama in that area of expertise. But who doesn't understand that? Minorities and Millennials. They don't know jack **** about what makes this country tick. They heard "Hope N Change" and saw brown skin and they succumbed to the idiocy.
So well stated but so misunderstandable to those who failed to see the light after just 4 years. Those milennials are a perfect example of what Obama wanted to get done during his first term. Promise them the world and then blame the other side because he couldn't deliver. I do wish they could see the light of day before he gets another 4 years completed but they have become his sheep like followers already.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: NY
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What future? Who is going to create jobs? The kids want it handed to them, won't do the work to strategize and make themselves marketable, wouldn't know how to start a business, can't handle risk or rejection, have no communication skills, etc. The "old folks" are holding it together for now. When they are out, there is no one left to be an adult.
No, we don't want it handed to us. The majority of my peers work very hard, almost harder than some of our parents did in some cases. We are often juggling full time college, unpaid internships, and low paid jobs. Some of us DO want to start businesses, but where do we get start up capital from if our jobs pay so low and in some cases our parents can't even help us financially. I saw a job ad from Capital One for a part time customer service rep. They preferred a COLLEGE DEGREE. The job probably paid no more than $11. A college degree to answer phones?
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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Americas can be so stupid. Do you really think there is that big of difference between Democrat and Republican? No. I live right outside of DC and you can't tell a Republican from a Democrat out here. Both parties are owned by the super-rich. And both parties move towards actions that ultimately hurt the middle and working classes in this country. Under both Bush and Obama, jobs continue to be outsourced and leave the country by the millions. Small businesses, which non-coincidentally employ the majority of Americans, are being regulated to death and put out of businesses by omnipresent global corporations who spend millions of dollars finding ways to brainwash American people to keep giving their money to these socially irresponsible faceless empires instead of buying locally made American products.

The credit crunch and economic downturn that started in December 2007 was only that false life preserver of prosperity deflating. What we are seeing now is the end result of over thirty years of deindustrialization, outsourcing, illegal immigration, rising cost of living coupled with stagnant real wages. In many parts of the country, illegal immigrants have come to dominate all manual labor professions from landscaping to maintenance to construction to fast food to warehouse work. Businesses take advantage of illegal immigrants who will work for less than minimum wage under the table. Tens of thousands of American factories have been shutdown and relocated overseas in the past ten years alone. Once upon a time, going to college was only reserved for the rich and exceptionally intelligent. Everyone used to work at a big factory down the street after they finished high school and would work there until they day they retired. My, how things have changed. In America, we produce none of the cheap plastic trinkets (i.e. smartphones, Air Jordans) that we covet. Not one single cellphone is manufactured in the United States:

19 Facts About The Deindustrialization Of America That Will Make You Weep - Business Insider

Slothful Baby Boomers, who rode a wave of prosperity afforded by their parents' generation, made it socially unacceptable for their middle class raised children to perform manual labor jobs. This opened the door for illegal and legal immigrants to dominate manual labor professions. Baby Boomers told their children "go to college so you don't end up flipping burgers, like a LOSER."

5 Ways We Ruined the Occupy Wall Street Generation | Cracked.com

Millions of kids took this message to heart and did the "right thing" by going in debt to their eyeballs going to college. Going to college would be all well and good if there were a lot of good jobs available for college graduates and if college students actually learned a lot while in school. The sad fact is that there aren't many good jobs available to average college graduates and most college students learn very little while in school. Historically, college has been reserved for the very rich and the very intelligent. It is not a coincidence that these two groups of people are the ones who are most likely to find good jobs immediately after completing college.

College Is Only Good for Helping Rich People Get Richer | Education on GOOD

Colleges and universities took advantage of millions more kids going to college who wouldn't have gone otherwise. As a result, the college curriculum has becoming increasingly dumbed down, colleges have come to resemble country clubs rather places of learning and grade inflation has become the golden standard. Nobody fails out of school anymore. As long as you show up, even stoned or drunk everyday, and half-ass your projects, you can count on that C+ every time. And that C+ is good enough for kids socialized to be slackers who spend their time in school chasing the elusive "college experience" which consists of the often extremely risky life-threatening behaviors of daily binge-drinking and having meaningless with sex with anyone you can just because you can.

The Five-Year Party

More often than not, kids finish college with freshly minted degrees from nationally respected diploma mills with no real skills to speak of and nothing but tens of thousands of dollars in debt plus a new set of terrible living habits like continuing to drink like a 19 year old fratboy despite being well into your late 20's or 30's, sleeping in late every day, overeating and being unemployed. These bad behaviors often become lifelong habits that are incredibly hard for young adults to break. Many college binge drinkers blossom into full-blown alcoholics. Being "overqualified" for unskilled jobs that only require a high school diploma and under-qualified for professional jobs, who much rather hire laid-off career veterans with years of proven experience, leaves many college grads unemployed for months to years on end. It doesn't help that two out of three college graduates carries significant student loan debt that will never go away until every last cent is paid in full.

Study: College Breeds Alcoholism | LiveScience

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Old 02-08-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Ahh I see. So when the voters vote the other guy, the voters are dumb as sh1t.

When the voters vote your guy, they are smart and made the right choice.

You do know that the millennial group generally have a higher educations right? But of course college has liberal brain washing agendas. So we can dismiss all that.

The economy and the stock market has plenty of positive signs right now. Those "green shoots" many folks tend to talk about are there. The stock market is up.

Your Mitt lost because he didn't answer any questions during his campaign. He dodged all those tax and deduction questions, it was laughable. He lied about auto jobs to China. And his binders full of women was genius.
When the other guy is Obama he certainly was the wrong choice.

The post you are answering said that one of the men understood business enough that businesses would have come out gunning and the other guy doesn't understand but is willing to continue his lies about why he is the real choice. I feel for you, but just can't quite reach you way over there on the left.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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GIS is where it's at. I commend you for following that path if that's what you're doing.
Thanks. This is what I want to do. Now it's a matter of finding a job that doesn't require any experience.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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When the other guy is Obama he certainly was the wrong choice.

The post you are answering said that one of the men understood business enough that businesses would have come out gunning and the other guy doesn't understand but is willing to continue his lies about why he is the real choice. I feel for you, but just can't quite reach you way over there on the left.
Ahh yeah OK I wish Mitt would have told us some of his business strategies when he was campaigning. How could I even vote for the guy. He didn't tell us anything! Remember that town hall debate where he was asked about specifics and deductions and what if his tax/budget plan won't be balanced? His answer?

"Trust me!"

Yep I should have voted for Mitt. Let's just wing it.

I don't need you to feel for me. I feel just fine with my voting decision.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:19 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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This might rank as the most ignorant post ever put forth on City Data forums.

In fact, I am a successful business owner. And because I am successful, I can sit back and laugh at you inexperienced greenhorns and your slobbering love affair with Barack Obama. All while you flit and flounder all over the place trying to find your way in the Barack Obama Economy.

LOL

But carry on! The business world is completely off-kilter without your glaring expertise!
Well please mr businessman. Specifically tell us what the Great Wizard Mitt would have done differently instead of deflecting.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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What future? Who is going to create jobs? The kids want it handed to them, won't do the work to strategize and make themselves marketable, wouldn't know how to start a business, can't handle risk or rejection, have no communication skills, etc. The "old folks" are holding it together for now. When they are out, there is no one left to be an adult.
Well, yes, the nanny state will be there when the old people are all gone and they can provide. Jobs won't be so much fun but when those old people are gone, or have been bled dry of money to give to those who just won't work, those people will find themselves working for the government and not having much fun either.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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No, we don't want it handed to us. The majority of my peers work very hard, almost harder than some of our parents did in some cases. We are often juggling full time college, unpaid internships, and low paid jobs. Some of us DO want to start businesses, but where do we get start up capital from if our jobs pay so low and in some cases our parents can't even help us financially. I saw a job ad from Capital One for a part time customer service rep. They preferred a COLLEGE DEGREE. The job probably paid no more than $11. A college degree to answer phones?
I can understand how many feel, because I'm a millennial and I don't have a job. I applied for an office position that would involve scanning documents and other secretary work. I applied for this job literally days after graduating from college. I wasn't chosen. I had a college degree and I was turned down for a low wage job. In many ways I can understand.
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