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Old 02-21-2013, 05:43 AM
 
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EBT Cards are now being accepted at AUTOZONE! Your tax dollars are paying for lottery tickets, gasoline, booze and now spark plugs. So you ask why? Because it stimulates the economy. Thank you tax payers!!!
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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EBT Cards are now being accepted at AUTOZONE! Your tax dollars are paying for lottery tickets, gasoline, booze and now spark plugs. So you ask why? Because it stimulates the economy. Thank you tax payers!!!
More than likely it's the cash portion of TANF. Both TANF and SNAP are now on the same card.
TANF is welfare and SNAP is food stamps.

The cash portion of TANF can be used for whatever they want..that is literally FREE money for them to spend.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:45 AM
 
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What's most interesting to me about this, is that right wingers choose to focus on those who truly need welfare and food stamps, and give the rich a free pass to steal, cheat, manipulate, and take trillions in welfare.

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There’s only one correct answer to the question, “What are poor people buying with their food stamps and welfare checks?” None of your goddamn business. People using social services still have human dignity and a right to privacy and they have just as much right to keep their shopping habits secret as anyone else. This right does not and should not disappear just became a bunch of haughty dip****s think it’s their duty to go snooping around SNAP recipient shopping carts searching for the proverbial steak and lobster or, gasp, maybe a six-pack of beer to get through a rough day or bag of candy to make the children happy.
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The welfare queen filling up the back seat of her Cadillac with beer and cigarettes is an urban legend, a gross stereotype, invented by St. Ronnie that takes the very real problem of welfare and food stamp fraud to a crass exaggeration and extrapolates it onto the vast majority of social service recipients who use the system ethically and, yes, have jobs that sadly don’t pay enough to support or feed them. The SNAP recipient with a shopping cart full of steak and lobster is a convenient scapegoat used to hide the real issue driving Tea Partiers, libertarians, and other idiot free market absolutists: They think they own poor people. Yes, they really do!

This is because Teabaggers imagine themselves as industrious John Galts,* lifting themselves up by their bootstraps (“No one gave me any handouts!”), doing everything alone. These self-imagined self-made men—who drive on government funded roads, enjoy the protection of government funded police, get the benefit of government funded public libraries and parks, and send their kids to government funded public schools, or, if not, send them to private schools that still offer government funded textbooks and school bus rides—start crying when the tax man comes; it’s Uncle Sam stealing “My money!” and spending “My money!” on those dirty lazy poor people. You can see this attitude in obnoxious Facebook pages with titles like, “If you have enough money for beer, you don’t need food stamps,” as if poverty is a personal failing rather than a systemic problem, as if the destitute should only get just enough to live on so they can see how very very bad they’ve been (and how grateful they should be to get crumbs from the upper class). In the eyes of Teabaggers, the poor must live a life of monk-like austerity to prove worthy of not starving as a penance for using Teabagger tax money; if a poor person buys one beer to take his mind off of life’s struggles, he’s a naughty naughty profligate!
*Oh, if anyone is asking, who is John Galt? He’s a second rate character in a third rate novel by a fourth rate philosopher whose ideas somehow keep showing up in the masturbatory fantasies of self-imagined self-made men. He’s also a metaphor for the self-made man that doesn’t exist.

And the dumbest part is the Teabaggers are throwing their anger at the wrong people! If they had half a brain, they’d be joining Occupy Wall Street and going after the real welfare abusers, not SNAP recipients, but TARP takers. Turns out, there IS a strong social safety net for some people in this country. If you’re a rich Wall Street investment banker, you can intentionally give out shoddy loans to people who can’t afford them, lie and get Standard & Poor and Moody’s to give those subprime mortgages AAA ratings so those **** loans can be passed on to investment bundles often made up of middle class retirement funds, buy collateralized debt obligations to collect windfalls when those bad mortgages do go belly up, and then, thanks to the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), get welfare in the form of a multi-billion dollar government bailout because, unlike those middle class suckers who lost their savings through your intentionally shoddy investment packages and now must beg for food stamps while getting looked down upon by self-made John Galtian Teabaggers for buying the occasional beer, you’re in charge of gobs of (mostly other people’s) capital at your investment bank and thus Too Big To Fail. But, no, let’s not throw those Wall Street *******s in jail for ruining the country because we’re too busy looking down on poor people who drink beer for trying to get some semblance of joy out of life, as if we are employed and they aren’t simply out of hard work and not the vagaries of life circumstance!
Right Wing Food Stamp and Welfare Myths « keithstache
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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"The welfare queen filling up the back seat of her Cadillac with beer and cigarettes is an urban legend,..."

I have seen it. I don't recall if it was a Caddy, and there was very little beer and cigarettes, but the folks in front of me in line were, as they used to say, "dressed to the nines", and they bought a lot of stuff that I couldn't afford to buy (at the time I was working for an aviation company, 50+ hours per week, a licensed aircraft mechanic). Mommy was wearing a very nice dress, daddy and junior were both wearing suits and ties. They loaded their steaks, soda, snacks, etc. into a vehicle that was less than 2 years old, after they paid for the stuff with FOOD STAMPS!
Like a great many "myths", this one is based on FACT! Perhaps the facts have been stretched over time, but the basic facts still existed 20 some years ago. As stated, I saw it!
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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"The welfare queen filling up the back seat of her Cadillac with beer and cigarettes is an urban legend,..."

I have seen it. I don't recall if it was a Caddy, and there was very little beer and cigarettes, but the folks in front of me in line were, as they used to say, "dressed to the nines", and they bought a lot of stuff that I couldn't afford to buy (at the time I was working for an aviation company, 50+ hours per week, a licensed aircraft mechanic). Mommy was wearing a very nice dress, daddy and junior were both wearing suits and ties. They loaded their steaks, soda, snacks, etc. into a vehicle that was less than 2 years old, after they paid for the stuff with FOOD STAMPS!
Like a great many "myths", this one is based on FACT! Perhaps the facts have been stretched over time, but the basic facts still existed 20 some years ago. As stated, I saw it!
So, you saw it. We'll assume you actually did see it. Do you know WHEN these people bought these nice things? Or where? To give you an idea of possibilities - yesterday, I bought a designer dress, a designer top, a bathing suit, and a bandanna at Goodwill for $2.39. Also, people forget that when a family goes on food stamps, the things they already had don't magically disappear. There are contracts for phones and cars that are expensive and difficult to get out of, or have no benefit to ending. Hard to get a job without a car, isn't it? And the car may not even have been theirs; I personally know someone who lost her car due to repossession five years ago, and has been driving other people's loaners ever since.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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I was checking out at a Walmart a few weeks ago and the lady in front of me had 2 shopping carts full of sugar, flour, flavoring...etc and she paid with an EBT card. I asked her while she was checking out if she would bake me a cake...I said I would pay her for it. She smiled and said you can come to my restaurant and buy a slice anytime you want.
Were located at axz....in Charlotte. KaaaaBamm, smoke was billowing from my ears! My tax dollars supplying her restaurant with inventory. Needless to say, I called the local office and reported this breathing cancer cell.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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"The welfare queen filling up the back seat of her Cadillac with beer and cigarettes is an urban legend,..."

I have seen it. I don't recall if it was a Caddy, and there was very little beer and cigarettes, but the folks in front of me in line were, as they used to say, "dressed to the nines", and they bought a lot of stuff that I couldn't afford to buy (at the time I was working for an aviation company, 50+ hours per week, a licensed aircraft mechanic). Mommy was wearing a very nice dress, daddy and junior were both wearing suits and ties. They loaded their steaks, soda, snacks, etc. into a vehicle that was less than 2 years old, after they paid for the stuff with FOOD STAMPS!
Like a great many "myths", this one is based on FACT! Perhaps the facts have been stretched over time, but the basic facts still existed 20 some years ago. As stated, I saw it!
She probably lied to you.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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What's most interesting to me about this, is that right wingers choose to focus on those who truly need welfare and food stamps, and give the rich a free pass to steal, cheat, manipulate, and take trillions in welfare.

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I don't know about it being a legend but other than that I agree with you. Comcast is a great example of this. would they be a monopoly in certain areas if they did not have govt help?
irregardless the rich are often good at being bad people. do they always take welfare? no but they do things that are morally wrong. you don't even have to personally know rich people to know that that is often true.
there are definitely good rich people out there (like the celebs I admire) but usually they are the people that come from nothing. I mean it's logic right? how can you appreciate something you have always had? actually even then people can fall from grace and forget where they came from. money: it's essential to survive but if you gain too much, it's like it has this black magic surrounding it. I don't even understand it but I do observe this a lot.

people suck period but I can't see too many poor people taking advantage of the system or at least not more than the rich and idk about anyone else but as I said, I certainly don't want FS. where's the luxury in food? does it make one happy? I just have no choice in the matter and I think it shows a lot about your character when you dictate what people should eat. being poor is difficult enough, no need to worsen it.

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Old 02-21-2013, 02:40 PM
 
Location: southern california
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per arnold the terminator. over 1/2 of the EBT money was used at casino ATM's.
its not welfare its a ghetto payoff to keep watts riot from happening again.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:55 PM
 
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What's most interesting to me about this, is that right wingers choose to focus on those who truly need welfare and food stamps, and give the rich a free pass to steal, cheat, manipulate, and take trillions in welfare.

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The rich a free pass?? You pays majority of the taxes?
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