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I want you to say that American was founded by outsiders – say that – who are today’s insiders, who are very nervous about today’s outsiders. I want you to say, ‘The pilgrims were illegal aliens.’ Say, ‘The pilgrims never gave their passports to the Indians.’” Betances also asked the audience, “Give me a bam,” after these statements, to which the audience replied in unison.
BAM!
Are you ready to move........or do you assume it's just white people they're talking about????
Clearly, it's everyone. I respect them knowing that it was their land. It's not me fighting down the statements made.
Those Indians are gone.....we are Americans and that includes Indians. People could do some good by learning from the Nez Perce, they don't carry their hate.....not many rely on the government and they are helping out in the state of Idaho with education. Stop complaining and be part of the solution.
Those Indians are gone.....we are Americans and that includes Indians. People could do some good by learning from the Nez Perce, they don't carry their hate.....not many rely on the government and they are helping out in the state of Idaho with education. Stop complaining and be part of the solution.
Please spare me. I'm simply not complaining about historical truths being told. It's other people complaining about hearing what occurred. Stop complaining about the new outsiders that are going to become insiders. So you all need to stop complaining about hearing it. Stop hating them and BE part of the solution.
SMH...at "those Indians are gone." As if none of them exist today.
Quote:
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
Who has learned to live together? Its very divided. Clearly you don't get out much. Hispanics in Southern California want all Blacks out of Southern Cali. The list goes on.
Whats wrong with coming? Who said they couldn't? Where is your anger for other South American countries?
So there were not other countries who had immigration laws & other countries that spoke other languages?
This is a bold face lie. There is no other way to put it. Propaganda cascaded by conservatives and white supremacist. I live in Southern California and can say with certainty that you do not know what you're talking about.
There were sea migrations from Europe, Africa and Oceania to the Americas starting at least as far back as 40,000 BCE.
I am with a small group who see evidence showing that in response to the Toba Event circa 78,000 BCE, groups began migrating away from the resultant damage caused by the Toba Event --- those east of Toba migrated east, and those west (western Asia, Europe and Africa) migrated west.
Groups from Oceania had settlements in northern Chile. While that region is now a desert, 32,000 years ago it wasn't not.....it was very similar to, uh, say, Oregon/Norther California.
Again, the oldest known skeletal remains in the America of a Negroid woman and they date back to 25,000 BCE. They were located in a cave in what is now Brasil.
The pre-Clovis Culture and most likely the Clovis Culture itself came from Europe.
That culture was destroyed circa 10,000 BCE - 8,000 BCE when either an asteroid storm, or an asteroid or comet broke up in the Earth's atmosphere and caused massive damage. Impact cites are located in Canada, and also along the entire eastern US seaboard. You can look at the Carolina Bays for that.
Those geographic anomalies were caused by impact craters, and they are all up and down the east coast starting in southern Georgia extending north to Pennsylvania.
Doctor Richard Firestone of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory is one of the leading researchers.
The evidence so far indicates that this evident wiped out at least two groups in North America; was responsible for the mass extinction of large mammals such as Giant Bears, Giant Sloths, Mastodons, Mammoths and others; and brought the last Ice Age to an early end by destroying the western ice sheet in Antarctica. There is also evidence to suggest that these impacts -- which are being hunted/located using ground penetrating radar from satellites, caused tsunamis in the world's oceans and are the true source of the various "Flood Myths."
One thing is for certain, these Adena and Hopewell Peoples where not "Native Americans."
That were vastly different, not only where they much taller than "Native Americans" they were more advanced on every level, and physically looked different than "Native Americans."
Some, myself included, believe they may have originated from North Africa and may be related to the Bedouins.
Archaeologically...
Mircea
Good points.
It's disingenuous to use a term like "Native Americans" (snicker).
It's nothing more than typical Liberal Göbbelism. They don't want people asking questions, like why some tribal groups welcomed colonists; why some helped colonists; why some groups fought with colonists against other tribal groups; why tribal groups practiced slavery; why tribal groups engaged in genocide and so on.
Concurring...
Mircea
No, you didn't steal it all, and you cannot show any evidence to prove that. You can certainly claim that some tribal groups were forcibly evicted, but not all.
Really, okay, then when does the genocide begin?
Genocide would make your country more beautiful no?
How about slavery? That would make your country more beautiful too, no?
Before colonists arrived.....at least 6 known tribal groups were exterminated -- wiped off the face of the Earth forever by Native Americans.
Those 6 known tribal groups, do not yet include the Adena and the Hopewell, who were totally exterminated in genocidal campaigns.
And sorry, when your peace-loving kumbaya singing Native Americans weren't committing genocide, it was usually due to the fact that they were too busy conducting slave raids.
Yes, you do, and you do a good job deceiving yourself.
Oh yes, anything but the truth.
Yes, it is false.
An opinion is a conclusion drawn from facts. What you are expressing is a personal belief, which happens to be false.
And you would be one of those in denial.
The French at Fort Detroit were so distressed by the fact that your beloved Indians practiced slavery and their constant slave raids disrupted trade between the French and other tribal groups, that they ended up engaging in "Shuttle Diplomacy" -- going back and forth between the various tribal groups trying to keep the peace.
The tribal groups ended up going to war against each other (the French stood on the sidelines and watched), and the wars didn't stop until one of the tribal chiefs was captured in battle and then executed.
They only proves they are as ignorant of the facts and ill-formed as you.
Oh, yes.....you got beat down with facts and so you move the goal-posts......how refreshingly Liberal.
The majority were not wrongfully expelled.
You wanna argue that the Cherokee were expelled? Okay, point for you. The Shawnee? Okay, another point for you. The Miami? Sorry, no soup for you. The Osage? Wrong answer. The Cheyenne, Comanche, Arapaho, Kiowa et al wrong answer. The Kiowa Apache? We'd need more archaeological and anthropological data to determine the were forcibly evicted or not.
By the way, the Shawnee inhabited Eastern Kentucky.
Oddly, the Shawnee built and manned forts right across the [Ohio] river where the Great Miami and Whitewater Rivers flow into the Ohio. I used to play in those forts as a kid. We collected and traded arrowheads. It's a State park now.
Why would your peacnik injuns be building forts? I mean, Whitey isn't here yet, so why build forts?
March 20th I'll be biking up to Serpent Mound. It's the Spring Equinox (I couldn't make it for the Winter Solstice).
The Hopewell People built it (and many other wonderful things).
After my beloved Hopewell People built it, your blood-thirsty murderous genocidal Red Indians drove them out and forced them to flee all the way south to Arkansas, where the whole of the Hopewell were exterminated forever....Hitler would have been proud, just I'm sure you are.
Appalled....
Mircea
Okay, how about we label you as a Child Molester?
What, got your panties bunched up?
Labeling (in the greatest tradition of the Left)...
Mircea
That's funny. I think the only law they had was the Tomahawk.
Legally...
Mircea
LOL @ you Mircea. The copy and paste queen. No relevance, just something to make you look smart.
And yet, when a Native American (American Indian) is asked "Who built the Medicine Wheel in Northern Wyoming?" the answer is "Those who came before!"
What happened to "those who came before"?
No answer.
Probable answer: They were either assimilated or killed off.
By whom?
Why, by the Native Americans, who invaded THEIR lands, that's who.
EVEN THE SO-CALLED "NATIVE AMERICANS" WERE IMMIGRANTS! That's right, ILLEGAL immigrants, because they were NOT invited!
They just got here a few thousand years earlier than the Europeans!
But then, we really don't KNOW when the first Europeans came to the Americas.
Who did they kill off again?
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