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Old 04-30-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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There are at least 3 threads on the first page attributing the plight of workers or the weaker economy to Obama. What? How is the President responsible for a business' decisions on when to hire or how much to pay? The most the President can do is create an environment for business to be successful & profitable... which the current environment is.

The fact is the current economic conditions in America are EXACTLY what Conservative policies lead to. In fact, I can't think of a SINGLE Conservative policy that would reverse the current trend. I've even asked Conservatives on here for their examples. Nothing.

I don't understand how you can be FOR offshoring jobs, importing workers and AGAINST minimum wages, collective bargaining and be surprised that the result is an America where the majority are affected by stagnating wages, and less disposable income.

So are Conservatives being deceptive when they complain about the conditions they asked for? Are they too obtuse to see the cause & effect relationship of their agenda? Or are they serious when they blame Democrats for Republican actions?
When will Democrats learn how, when and why employers hire?
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:34 PM
 
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When will Democrats learn how, when and why employers hire?
Anyone trying to explain basic economics to a liberal is simply wasting his time.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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you blame conservatives, but how about the liberals as well? obama has instituted policies that are anti business, obamacare, dodd-frank, more regulations, etc. he has also pushed for higher taxes as well. until more business friendly policies are instituted, business is not going to hire.

one more thing, supposedly we are in a recovery, but if you look back at EVERY economic recovery in history you will find one thing, that job creation is always the last thing that happens, not the first.
The fact that companies are the most profitable they've every been, the top percentiles are earning more & gaining wealth, and the stock market is at record highs disproves your point.

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When will Democrats learn how, when and why employers hire?
Please educate us then. I'm very interested in hearing which Conservative policies fix the issue of why businesses aren't hiring, despite record low tax burdens and record high products.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:41 PM
 
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The fact that companies are the most profitable they've every been, the top percentiles are earning more & gaining wealth, and the stock market is at record highs disproves your point.
Not at all. Companies are making record profits because government has made competition difficult.

Its because of POLICIES YOU SUPPORTED this is taking place, and you cant even comprehend, can you?
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Please educate us then. I'm very interested in hearing which Conservative policies fix the issue of why businesses aren't hiring, despite record low tax burdens and record high products.
Why the hell would they hire? When you can meet demand with the current work force, then what would you hire 1,000 more employees to do?
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The fact that companies are the most profitable they've every been, the top percentiles are earning more & gaining wealth, and the stock market is at record highs disproves your point.



Please educate us then. I'm very interested in hearing which Conservative policies fix the issue of why businesses aren't hiring, despite record low tax burdens and record high products.
Businesses aren't hiring because they don't need to. As you said, they are making record profits with slightly less employees than before the recession. Why hire?
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
There are at least 3 threads on the first page attributing the plight of workers or the weaker economy to Obama. What? How is the President responsible for a business' decisions on when to hire or how much to pay? The most the President can do is create an environment for business to be successful & profitable... which the current environment is.

The fact is the current economic conditions in America are EXACTLY what Conservative policies lead to. In fact, I can't think of a SINGLE Conservative policy that would reverse the current trend. I've even asked Conservatives on here for their examples. Nothing.

I don't understand how you can be FOR offshoring jobs, importing workers and AGAINST minimum wages, collective bargaining and be surprised that the result is an America where the majority are affected by stagnating wages, and less disposable income.

So are Conservatives being deceptive when they complain about the conditions they asked for? Are they too obtuse to see the cause & effect relationship of their agenda? Or are they serious when they blame Democrats for Republican actions?
They don't have to hire. They are not charities. They'll hire when it benefits them economically.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Businesses aren't hiring because they don't need to. As you said, they are making record profits with slightly less employees than before the recession. Why hire?
So what are you complaining about then? This is your ideal situation. Companies are making $. Workers have no power to get a bigger share of the profits. Demand among the middle class drops, and the economy drags along.

Finally a Conservative comes out and admits it.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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They don't have to hire. They are not charities. They'll hire when it benefits them economically.
Whoo! Another Conservative that admits the economy is right where they want it.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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"when are Conservatives going to address the fact that businesses are making record profits..."

That damn socialist Obama!!!
Yes, he is busy picking the winners and losers; rewarding his friends by looting the US Treasury, and punishing his enemies with legislation and regulations and intimidation.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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So what are you complaining about then? This is your ideal situation. Companies are making $. Workers have no power to get a bigger share of the profits. Demand among the middle class drops, and the economy drags along.

Finally a Conservative comes out and admits it.
I think most people are complaining about the fact that it is more difficult for smaller companies to start up and compete. Small businesses have always been the backbone of the American economy and small companies have always employed more Americans than larger companies.

Of course, some people complain no matter what.
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