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There is something you need to understand about India. Yes, a highly educated tech worker may live quite nicely on a fraction of what the same worker would like to be paid in the West or the USA. However for evey Tech worker in India there are 10 or more dirt poor Indians looking over the fences that separate the Housing Estates or bright well appointed Corporate campuses from their India. Places that are guarded by security men with nice long canes to beat the unwashed and unwanted and keep them out of these enclaves. One fine day in the not so far future we may be treated tgo the sight of much of Bangalore going up in flames when the mases decide they have had enough of waiting and looking through the fences , and enough of the canings and burised or bloodied skin !
There are two sides of the outsourcing and globalization issue!
Do you really think companies like IBM, Microsoft, Shell Oil care ?
Globalism cannot afford to have a middle class much like the US. There just aren't enough resources in the world to support that setup.
Only 65-70% of US IT/comp sci graduates actually work in IT/comp sci. That is a staggering waste of talent. There is no excuse for importing H1-Bs to do this work. None. TRAIN PEOPLE. Geez.
Yet we're STILL told that there's a shortage of STEM workers, and therefore we need H-1B and L1 visa programs. Is there anything our policy makers state that is not a lie?
Look...
Your so-called "policy makers" don't even write legislation any more. Corporate America's army of laywers and lobbyists handle that function. And now that the corporations have outsourced industrial jobs to Red China and have hired millions of illegals to do manual labor that can't be outsourced, they want to flood the labor pool with technical workers to hold down income in that sector.
Policy makers act in accordance with the wishes of their constituents. And corporations own the so-called "lawmakers" who loyally dance to their tune.
Only 65-70% of US IT/comp sci graduates actually work in IT/comp sci. That is a staggering waste of talent. There is no excuse for importing H1-Bs to do this work. None. TRAIN PEOPLE. Geez.
Ironically there is a company in your home town Richardson TX who is constantly advertising for job openings, and are in constant shortage of skilled IT workers, because they use older thechology. They HAVE TO find the people from whereever they can find them, and not surprisinly about half of their programmers are from India, and they are not cheap.
This discussion belongs on the Illegal Immigration Forum.
No it doesn't.
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Ironically there is a company in your home town Richardson TX who is constantly advertising for job openings, and are in constant shortage of skilled IT workers, because they use older thechology. They HAVE TO find the people from whereever they can find them, and not surprisinly about half of their programmers are from India, and they are not cheap.
Name. You can PM it to me. I bet I know at least one person working there, I can probably get the real scoop from them.
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We need H1B people with specific skill sets. The US graduates may be well suited for entry level IT positions, but a lot of companies require people with particular skills and they are hard to find, because the universities do not teach those skills.
The vast majority of people entering the US with H-1B visas are taking entry level positions, not senior level positions. Furthermore, those with H-1B visas taking entry level positions often possess inferior skill sets to those who are recent US graduates.
We need H1B people with specific skill sets. The US graduates may be well suited for entry level IT positions, but a lot of companies require people with particular skills and they are hard to find, because the universities do not teach those skills. For example people who were in IT in the 1980s and 1990s know programming langiuages such as RPG and COBOL which are not taught in universities anymore, and therefore it is hard to find people with those skills.
Those programming languages are antiquated anyway. But you're right. College is the worst place to go for an IT career.
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