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Old 05-03-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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AGW appears to be the reason the global climate did not fall back into an ice age 8,000 years ago. I have studied this topic and am far more concerned with a return to the "normal" ice age climate than with continued global warming.

FWIW - I have observed the changes in New England crops over the last 50 years and we are now growing mid Atlantic crops in Northern New England. That is the result of a warming climate. The warming is real but so is the data from the Greenland and Antarctic ice cores.

Tabloids have always published hyperbolic nonsense. I ignore the noise.
GregW, Do you have the weather app 'Ambient Weather . com'?

As I type apx 10:30 am it's 32 F on Mt Washington, which for most purposes is 1 mile high.

 
Old 05-03-2013, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The average 100+ degree days in Austin since 1890's is 12 days. The average since 2008...50+ days. 2011 [90] 100+degree days

100 Degree Day Information for South Central Texas

And any idiot can understand if you set up a weather station in a small farm town with 15,000 people, then grow the town over the next century to a million people with all the surrounding concrete and asphalt, the temperature readings in that town will increase.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 08:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Predictions made in 1970:

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist


“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
 
Old 05-03-2013, 08:40 AM
 
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Global Cooling will be far more disastrous if it occurs.
I'm willing to sacrifice Wisconsin to the glaciers for the greater good though.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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And any idiot can understand if you set up a weather station in a small farm town with 15,000 people, then grow the town over the next century to a million people with all the surrounding concrete and asphalt, the temperature readings in that town will increase.
FYI- That excuse was debunked by a UCLA study....and before you start screaming bias, the major funding came from the Koch brothers.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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"Runaway Global Warming promises to literally burn-up agricultural areas into dust worldwide by 2012, causing global famine, anarchy, diseases, and war on a global scale as military powers including the U.S., Russia, and China, fight for control of the Earth's remaining resources.
Over 4.5 billion people could die from Global Warming related causes by 2012, as planet Earth accelarates into a greed-driven horrific catastrophe."


Meanwhile it is 2013 and no one has died from global warming yet.

Why anyone takes the global warming morons seriously is beyond belief, these people are too stupid to take their laughable predictions off their website. lols.

The Canadian National Newspaper: Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012
What year was this prediction made?

BTW, we just got 8" of white, fluffy global warming yesterday, IT'S MAY!!!!
 
Old 05-03-2013, 08:56 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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i also remember hearing that by 2000 everyone will be in a flying car. my car still is subject to gravity.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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The average 100+ degree days in Austin since 1890's is 12 days. The average since 2008...50+ days. 2011 [90] 100+degree days

100 Degree Day Information for South Central Texas

Where do you live? Not Austin, I can safely say that. So, you can cite weather-temp conditions from NOAA in the days of Wyatt Erp if you think that means squat, but I'm telling you that as a resident of Austin, we are extraordinarily cold.

Furthermore, NOAA's data is extremely suspect because I know it's wrong. For example, it says we had 21 consecutive days of 100+ in 2001, yet I know for a fact that we broke a temp record with 33 days in a row of 100+ that year ... it was all over the local news, as if anyone needed to be told.

The point here is that these data represent "weather" data, not "climate" data, as climate is measured over vastly longer periods of time than a few decades. I'm only pointing out that it is frigid outside right now to dispel this idiocy of global warming, since it apparently is skipping over us here in central Texas, at the moment.

Statistics can show whatever the statistician wishes to show ..... and much of that has to do with the selection of beginning and end points one chooses to make comparison. The global warmers have been engaging in that slight of hand all along.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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The earth heats periodically and cools periodically cools. Humans and their paltry emissions equal to less than .01% of the total has not caused any deviation from the normal cycle.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:49 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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The earth heats periodically and cools periodically cools. Humans and their paltry emissions equal to less than .01% of the total has not caused any deviation from the normal cycle.

As George Carlin said. The planet isn't going anywhere... WE ARE!!!!!
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