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Old 05-17-2013, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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The only thing I see wrong is that her stereotype isn't really representative of most young blacks, at least not in total.

I'm surprised she chose to perpetuate the stereotype.
She perpetuating facts, uncomfortable facts but facts nonetheless.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Yet I'm told on this board there is no such thing as African-American culture. This is all too perplexing. The woman is a bigot.

First lady bemoans culture of African Americans aspiring to be 'a baller or a rapper' - POLITICO.com
I'm not sure if this is really a race issue. There are white kids out there wanting to be "ballers" and "rappers". she just wants what everyone wants for the children. Better lives and for them to reach higher in their lives because most people are better than that.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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I'm not sure if this is really a race issue. There are white kids out there wanting to be "ballers" and "rappers". she just wants what everyone wants for the children. Better lives and for them to reach higher in their lives because most people are better than that.

All indoctrinated by libs and socialist. Thats our fault for handign them over to these unionized people to begin with.

All of this is to reign in these kids for their agendas. We have sacrificed our children to the alters of NWO.All of us.I am begining to think we can't help it,we have been bewitched by an evil force is the only explanation.

I'm an old lady who use to beleive in equal rights,now I don't think its possible what we have is not equal,its criminal.

This globetrotter race hustler is just one of the symptoms of our weakness and downfall. She has kept Air Force One and Two in the air every since her first week in office,she does'nt give a damn about poor blacks or she would have never given away their jobs and nation to foreigners.No first woman in our history has even come close to all the trips and servants this woman has.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:00 PM
 
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They didn't see higher education as a reality based of the color of their skin? You really believe that?
Here is the difference, if a white dude doesn't see higher education as a reality, we don't go oh that's how white men think.

His race is not even thought to be a factor in the decision. The exact opposite is assumed when a black person does anything. Their skin color is all anyone can focus on and making some kind of racial connection to their behavior.

Look, I could do better at my job, I could be a better husband, I could be a better father, a better son, a better grandson, a better older brother, a better friend, a better mentor, etc and so on.

So there isn't any human being that couldn't stand to do better in certain aspects of their life.

So what does that universal truth have to do with skin color?

There is no truth to the idea that black children think getting an education is acting white.

I have had this discussion with many other black people and not one has said, yes I know a child who thinks getting an education is acting white.

It is an urban myth spawned by the American racial narrative of black dysfunction and inferiority.
Do people actually come out and say verbatim that higher education is a White thing. Probably not, but for some race is an underlying issue. I live in a state where slaves didn't know they were free for two years and people celebrate that. Do you seriously think that 400 years of racism and oppression hasn't broken the spirits of some people? Do you think that broken spirit could possibly be passed from one generation to another? You can talk to all the Black people that you want, but it doesn't change what I've seen and experienced.

In my time I've seen a lot of broken spirits. I've also seen a lot of racism. Black men are more likely to get harsher prison sentences and face more discrimination in the job and housing markets. Do you think this has had no effect on some attitudes? Do you think that as a Black person I don't know about stereotypes. Do you think I don't see that a group of Black boys getting rowdy are called thugs, but a group of White boys doing the same are called boys being boys? I know this, just as well or better than you do, but it doesn't negate the fact that a subculture exists that teaches their children to do the stanky leg before they teach them their ABCs. To overcome racism in this day and age, we have to excel.

I don't live my life to impress White people and at this point there is not much some racist can do to me, but I am not going to pretend that I am not disgusted by some of the things I see from my own race. I will not pretend that there are no issues. There are and there is nothing wrong with what the FLOTUS said. She says it to uplift spirits, not to beat them down and although I believe that she addressed the wrong audience, there are people of all races, but especially Black people that should take her advice.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:01 PM
 
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I'm not sure if this is really a race issue. There are white kids out there wanting to be "ballers" and "rappers". she just wants what everyone wants for the children. Better lives and for them to reach higher in their lives because most people are better than that.

This is true.But this woman is'nt talking to white kids,she is talking about them.Doing what they do best,dividing this nation as if we need more division.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:07 PM
 
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Do people actually come out and say verbatim that higher education is a White thing. Probably not, but for some race is an underlying issue. I live in a state where slaves didn't know they were free for two years and people celebrate that. Do you seriously think that 400 years of racism and oppression hasn't broken the spirits of some people? Do you think that broken spirit could possibly be passed from one generation to another? You can talk to all the Black people that you want, but it doesn't change what I've seen and experienced.

In my time I've seen a lot of broken spirits. I've also seen a lot of racism. Black men are more likely to get harsher prison sentences and face more discrimination in the job and housing markets. Do you think this has had no effect on some attitudes? Do you think that as a Black person I don't know about stereotypes. Do you think I don't see that a group of Black boys getting rowdy are called thugs, but a group of White boys doing the same are called boys being boys? I know this, just as well or better than you do, but it doesn't negate the fact that a subculture exists that teaches their children to do the stanky leg before they teach them their ABCs. To overcome racism in this day and age, we have to excel.

I don't live my life to impress White people and at this point there is not much some racist can do to me, but I am not going to pretend that I am not disgusted by some of the things I see from my own race. I will not pretend that there are no issues. There are and there is nothing wrong with what the FLOTUS said. She says it to uplift spirits, not to beat them down and although I believe that she addressed the wrong audience, there are people of all races, but especially Black people that should take her advice.

Why not ask the jews this question? They were persecuted more than any of your own people persecuted any of you.They still are today.I'm not talking about the ones in with the jesuits and muslims,but the majority of jews who just want to live in peace.

They eusted themselves off got back up and started over with alot less help than blacks have been given or poor white for that matter.Its in their culture to love education and hard work. They don't have kids out of wedlock liek almost all American kids do now,whites included.They first work to provide them marry and have kids.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:09 PM
 
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Why not ask the jews this question? They were persecuted more than any of your own people persecuted any of you.They still are today.I'm not talking about the ones in with the jesuits and muslims,but the majority of jews who just want to live in peace.

They eusted themselves off got back up and started over with alot less help than blacks have been given or poor white for that matter.Its in their culture to love education and hard work. They don't have kids out of wedlock liek almost all American kids do now,whites included.They first work to provide them marry and have kids.
I am responding to a specific post and your posts in this thread are part of the reason I don't like discussing these issues on CD.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:12 PM
 
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I am responding to a specific post and your posts in this thread are part of the reason I don't like discussing these issues on CD.
Thats what pm's are for.So when did you buy City Data? I thought it was a discussion site fro all,did'nt know it was just for you?

If you don't like me don't reply to my post,plain and simple,really easy.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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Wrong! Not the young ones anyway,espcially those with money and fame,they won't even date a black woman.No sense in lying about it. The smart ones both black and white should be going after the latinos,maybe they can work in the big house.
no, only 25% of them are married to non black women, so, still, the majority of black married men are married to black women. not that that has anything to do with this thread.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:19 PM
 
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I understand that some heretake everythign personal and think only they should have free speech,and maybe thats true in their minds and the minds of their protectors here.

But all of you just remember one thing,if I lose mine it means you lost yours too,so report me cause my comments to be cut or even get me banned for saying the same things you do,but we now are all in deep trouble and there are those who don't like any Americans that will be happy to see us fight and argue.The whites did'nt do anymore to blacks than the blacks did to themselves and the latinos did'nt do anymore to us than we allowed them to do,so take some responsibility will ya.
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