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That is part of what I'm trying to say as well. There are so many people complaining about Blacks, as if Blacks are the only people with "bad people" in it. I lived in a predominantly area, and I'm back where I lived during middle school and high school because of economic reasons(recent college graduate and I'm still looking for work). I can tell you some stories about some of the bad stuff I've seen from some White people. Having lived in racial diverse areas as well as mostly White areas, I have a different view on things. I've seen the best and worst from different ethnic groups.
I just get PO when whites who have very limited experiences with any other group are all of the sudden the "experts" on the black community and totally ignoring the fact that the poor white community has if not the same issues but similiar ones as well.
We have talked about this before as to why black people are always the focal point of everything that is negative on CD.
The funny part is, I was actually there Friday at Bowie State's graduation when she made the speech in person. At the Comcast center. In section 123
The part about culture of celebrity and all that was directed at the entire nation of youth. LOL. She did say the part about "we need to call down the lie about a black kid with a book is acting white" (something like that). It was towards the end.
In any case she didn't exactly say anything about today's "black culture" explicitly in the way being implied. She started the speech talking about how hard slaves fought to be educated and a bit about the history of how the school itself started, and then used her parents story to show how much that generation valued education. She also used statistics to show how much better off people with a college degree are. Then she talked about today's stats in the black community and said the stuff about a celebrity culture but implied that was a national issue with youth in general. Then she charged the graduates with going back to their communities and passing along the importance of an education to people still there.
She also called out 2 outstanding members of the graduating class. One was black and one was white.
I was responding to green_mariner's comment that there were "a lot" of poor white people in Baltimore. That's a bit of a stretch. There is literally one poor majority white neighborhood left, and it's less white by the day. It's called Armistead. It was a working class post WW2 Co-Op, mostly Irish Catholics and Italians.
I agree with the greater point that there ARE usually at least a handful of white people (usually older residents who have lived there for many years) living in what are considered "black, inner city slums."
East St. Louis comes to mind. There is a small white enclave there in a 98% black city.
I grew up as part of the white minority in largely black Prince George's County, MD. I spent time in some areas that were considered by most to be "all black." They were never ALL black. There was usually a Hispanic family or two on the block, and an older white couple, etc.
In U.S cities with a huge Black population, you can find zip codes that are between 90%-99% percent Black. Within those zip codes, you can easily find a couple of blocks of project buildings that are literally 100 percent Black.
I don't live in Appalachia or deal with folks who do. Do you? I can't speak of what I don't see or know first hand. Got yourself some self righteous agenda based on the color of your skin or those white folks in the mountains? I don't.
Consider this. I'm Black, but I don't live in the inner city, or deal with people from the inner city. I might have a college-educated perspective on the situation, but I was never brought up in that environment. I was raised a suburban kid, so I have very little interaction with such an environment. I know what people have told me about the inner city, and other things I've learned in school. But I haven't actually lived in that environment. Believe it or not, there are many Blacks who aren't raised in the inner city.
Haven't even worked WITH? Don't know generations of families who live off the system on purpose? These people who flat out ask why their friend's kid isn't knocked up by 13? But so full of opinions? Then you have NO idea what you think you know via what you've been told or got yourself all "learned" about up in school versus REALITY.
This is ALWAYS the problem.
So much to say based on not knowing a damn thing about what really goes on.
Not even "volunteering" at a soup kitchen once a week or whatever else will do it. That's just garners sympathy...get to know them. You won't like 99% of them when you DO, and because they don't give one single crap about anything other than playing the race/illegal card and living the way they do. And when one family member "does good"...they use her/him too. Until, and unfortunately, the smart one gets over the idiot and he ends up frozen to death in his car, found half dead AND half frozen in the basement of an abandoned building (went on to die about a month later), all shot up in a park ....
I know three people who found themselves dead or almost dead like that. Do you know any?
It's not a tv show or a statistic for those of US who deal with these folks, it's reality.
Come to my business, any and all of you if you want a dose of reality.
We've even got a black preacher in town, who is all about politics and being a huge bully in town...gets major $$ donated to his "cause" and his "flock" every year. The church is HUGE - just like the evangelical churches I drive by on my way to OBX. He's helped no one. Just shows up for ribbon cutting ceremonies for any business NOT opened by a white person in the town, and backs the kids/parents who jump on cops (sends the cops to the hospital) at the HS school dance.
He's great. All about himself.
It SHOULD be a tv show, but it's not.
So grow up and deal with the FACT that what you don't wanna know or hear is the damn TRUTH. It's easier to sit back and assume everyone is dealt a bad card in life, by none of their own doing, when that's not even close to how it's been going on for decades.
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Haven't even worked WITH? Don't know generations of families who live off the system on purpose? These people who flat out ask why their friend's kid isn't knocked up by 13? But so full of opinions? Then you have NO idea what you think you know via what you've been told or got yourself all "learned" about up in school versus REALITY.
This is ALWAYS the problem.
So much to say based on not knowing a damn thing about what really goes on.
Not even "volunteering" at a soup kitchen once a week or whatever else will do it. That's just garners sympathy...get to know them. You won't like 99% of them when you DO, and because they don't give one single crap about anything other than playing the race/illegal card and living the way they do. And when one family member "does good"...they use her/him too. Until, and unfortunately, the smart one gets over the idiot and he ends up frozen to death in his car, found half dead AND half frozen in the basement of an abandoned building (went on to die about a month later), all shot up in a park ....
I know three people who found themselves dead or almost dead like that. Do you know any?
It's not a tv show or a statistic for those of US who deal with these folks, it's reality.
Come to my business, any and all of you if you want a dose of reality.
We've even got a black preacher in town, who is all about politics and being a huge bully in town...gets major $$ donated to his "cause" and his "flock" every year. The church is HUGE - just like the evangelical churches I drive by on my way to OBX. He's helped no one. Just shows up for ribbon cutting ceremonies for any business NOT opened by a white person in the town, and backs the kids/parents who jump on cops (sends the cops to the hospital) at the HS school dance.
He's great. All about himself.
It SHOULD be a tv show, but it's not.
So grow up and deal with the FACT that what you don't wanna know or hear is the damn TRUTH. It's easier to sit back and assume everyone is dealt a bad card in life, by none of their own doing, when that's not even close to how it's been going on for decades.
Really? So you think I know absolutely nothing? Well, my father is from the ghetto and he has told me a few things himself. He is one of the people who have told me about what it's like to live in a rough neighborhood. He has experience with it, and he has been back to his old neighborhood a few times, not to mention, visiting relatives in other places, some who have made it out of bad neighborhoods.
As for that preacher, well, ask yourself this. You said it was just him doing this. Well, if it is him who is doing this, well, I can only say he is just representative of greed, not every Black preacher in this nation.
Look, before you jump down my throat about "not knowing anything", let me tell you this. I have mentioned many times that there needs to be fathers in the homes, that education is necessary, and other important things. However, I don't go talking down on the entire Black population, stuff like "Black people this" and "Black people that" and basically complaining about the Black population in the USA, as if they do everything bad. People are not saying these things because "it's the true". Alot of people are saying this stuff because they resent Blacks and are angry at them. Why should I listen to someone whose only goal is to vent their anger at Blacks? When someone like Michelle Obama or Bill Cosby, or Michael Nutter mentions things in their speeches, I will listen because I can tell they care and want to see things get better for Black people. However, alot of what I see on these threads, is mostly anger and resentment at Blacks. How do I not know that this is just a continuation of lingering prejudice from the past? That is what persons such as simetime and myself are tired of. I can admit that there are issues within poor, Black areas. However, what I've noticed on here are people who basically complain about Blacks at large. It is WHY these things are being said that I have a problem with, and the tone seems to speak with "Black people are America's problem". That is what I get disturbed about. Tell me to grow up? Hearing that makes me believe you are just trying to dismiss my problem.
In U.S cities with a huge Black population, you can find zip codes that are between 90%-99% percent Black. Within those zip codes, you can easily find a couple of blocks of project buildings that are literally 100 percent Black.
That doesn't mean you can't find Whites living within those cities.
Race is not real ? Can you tell that to The Congressional Black Caucus and The NAACP ? They did not get the message yet, because they obviously believe race is real. They make their bread and butter off of racial identity politics.
while this is true, but nowadays it seems that conservative groups are winning that war
white citizens council now known as council of conservative citizens is making waves back,slowly
Haven't even worked WITH? Don't know generations of families who live off the system on purpose? These people who flat out ask why their friend's kid isn't knocked up by 13? But so full of opinions? Then you have NO idea what you think you know via what you've been told or got yourself all "learned" about up in school versus REALITY.
This is ALWAYS the problem.
So much to say based on not knowing a damn thing about what really goes on.
Not even "volunteering" at a soup kitchen once a week or whatever else will do it. That's just garners sympathy...get to know them. You won't like 99% of them when you DO, and because they don't give one single crap about anything other than playing the race/illegal card and living the way they do. And when one family member "does good"...they use her/him too. Until, and unfortunately, the smart one gets over the idiot and he ends up frozen to death in his car, found half dead AND half frozen in the basement of an abandoned building (went on to die about a month later), all shot up in a park ....
I know three people who found themselves dead or almost dead like that. Do you know any?
It's not a tv show or a statistic for those of US who deal with these folks, it's reality.
Come to my business, any and all of you if you want a dose of reality.
We've even got a black preacher in town, who is all about politics and being a huge bully in town...gets major $$ donated to his "cause" and his "flock" every year. The church is HUGE - just like the evangelical churches I drive by on my way to OBX. He's helped no one. Just shows up for ribbon cutting ceremonies for any business NOT opened by a white person in the town, and backs the kids/parents who jump on cops (sends the cops to the hospital) at the HS school dance.
He's great. All about himself.
It SHOULD be a tv show, but it's not.
So grow up and deal with the FACT that what you don't wanna know or hear is the damn TRUTH. It's easier to sit back and assume everyone is dealt a bad card in life, by none of their own doing, when that's not even close to how it's been going on for decades.
That is interesting and I for one will not doubt anything that you have written. Now coming from someone who has actually lived and worked in a poor and impoverished community, I can guarantee you that what you have mentioned is a exception rather then the rule. As far as what you have stated I look at that no different then white owned predatory banks, contractors and payday loan stores going to those same communities and taking avantage of those who live there
I think because many people have such a disdain for this form of entertainment even when they do not know very much about it, they assume that all rappers are ignorant, criminal minded and stupid which is far from the truth.
In U.S cities with a huge Black population, you can find zip codes that are between 90%-99% percent Black. Within those zip codes, you can easily find a couple of blocks of project buildings that are literally 100 percent Black.
This meean what? Go back some years and you would have found that those areas were populated by poor whites. So again I ask you what is your point?
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