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Women do not need counselling after rape, that is just a PC sham to try and stop rape from happening.
But rapes should be reported but only in genuine cases.
Everybody please re-read what is posted above. Here, I'll even quote it "Women do not need counseling after rape, that is just a PC sham to try and stop rape from happening."
PC sham...to try and stop rape from happening...
How dare you try and say what a woman does or does not need after rape???? How dare you call something a shame to prevent rape, as though preventing rape is a bad thing????
What response would you like if you were assaulted and anally raped (since you are a man)? Man up and deal with it?
Violence is for mad dogs and barbarians. Recently there was an incident near Toronto - It was withing the sporting community. A 16 year old hockey player was knocked down during a game....The other guy hovered over the fallen young man...Ripped off his helmet - and beat him senseless - The guy laying prone did not fight back...He suffered a broken nose - severe cuts to the face...and a concussion.....The parents of the boy went to the police and insisted that criminal charges be laid against the attacker....The hockey people and the police said that it was all part of the game...............HOW with this mentality being prevalent in society is a woman supposed to feel secure - that she is not brutally attacked and raped?
A violent attack is not mutual combat with the spoils going to the victor. Assault of any kind can not be tolerated or thought of as "part of the game" - I just don't understand how a male can attack a woman and ruin her life...it is like murder where the victim becomes the walking dead...I have known a few rape victims and all of them were severely damaged and stopped from having a full life. What parent would allow a young son to even THINK that the forced seduction of a female and the brutal rape of a woman is remotely normal?
Porn at one time was tasteful - respectful and artistic....Now with the advent of internet pornography the art form has taken on the appearance of a vision of hell...The most disturbing acts of violence and abuse and torture are being passed off to young naive males as normal....
Speaking as a straight (not that this should matter), healthy young male myself, recent news events (Steubenville, etc) and some research on polls and surveys have made me even more sickened by the brutal callousness with which male and female rape victims are treated by society today. I've never experienced sexual assault, nor do I have any family members/friends that I know have undergone such an experience, but I can emphasize with how horrifying of an experience a rape must be. What must feel even worse, however, is when your community refuses to believe or care about your trauma. It's disgusting, to say the least.
A large variety of independent studies indicate that as many as 1 in 5 women have been raped in their lifetime and as many as 8% of college males, primarily fraternity members and athletes, have admitted to attempting or committing rape. I don't think many people, particularly men, understand just how traumatic an experience rape is. Upwards of 35% of rape victims report contemplating suicide following their experience, and the level of post traumatic stress in rape victims is higher than among war veterans. Even more dreadful is the report that only 3-6% of rapists are ever convicted for their crimes, thanks to a combination of police incompetence and a disturbing quantity of rape apologists.
With this in mind, the disgusting kneejerk reaction of your typical misogynist that the woman should be help responsible for <insert arbitrary reason here> is the equivalent of telling a young boy that he deserved to watch his parents get burned alive in a house fire because he threw out his vegetables, or telling a torture victim that he deserved his experience because he didn't wash his hands. What kind of a sociopath thinks that drinking a little too much on the night means you deserve to suffer a lifelong, traumatic experience?
I'm usually an optimist, but holy ****. Holy ****.
I can't decide which is worse out of the following:
1. the fact that more and more teenage girls seem to lack any sort of common sense. What makes a girl think that it is okay to get so mind numbingly drunk that you don't even remember what happened the night before? I'm sorry, but these girls are not innocent. They did a really stupid thing. Rule number one in life: don't put yourself in a stupid situation. This girl was so out of it she did not remember being used as a sex toy for six hours beyond five seconds of puking into a street. She is lucky she is not dead, given how little her classmates cared. They could have left her for dead in a gutter somewhere. More on that in a moment.
2. The fact that more and more teenage boys see nothing wrong with taking a passed out drunk girl and using her as a sex toy for many hours. Oh, wait, they remember later when they realize she might talk since she's still alive and they might lose their almighty gridiron scholarship.
3. The fact that at least 20 peers witnessed the whole thing or varying parts of it and NOT A SINGLE PERSON did a single thing about what happened, beyond filming the rape while it was going on, taking pictures of the rape, and posting YouTube videos bragging about how the girl was "as dead as OJ Simpson's wife." This bothers me about as much as the stupid teenage girl: the onlookers who act like the paparazzi did when Princess Diana died. Doing nothing but watching and taking pictures. And nowadays, posting them online. I think such people should be shot. They are worse than a rapist; they saw someone get raped, and then used as a sex toy, and at one point urinated on, and knew that woman was passed out, and THEY DID NOTHING. Nothing AT ALL. Some of these onlookers were even women. Women who sat there and watched another woman get raped. Disgusting. Appalling.
Each one of these stupid drunk teenage girl gets raped by stupid drunk teenage boys stories are always, always accompanied by stupid drunk teenagers watched and did nothing, they filmed it, and took pictures of it, and they posted them online, and they did not give a crap for anyone else besides themselves. One woman or one man might not be enough to stop a rape, but 20 people sure are enough to stop a rape. I shudder to think of what these teenagers will be like in the coming years. Will they be the sort who watch stabbings in the street and do nothing but film it? At any rate, they are filth as far as I am concerned, and they should be tried also. I hope they get raped or mugged with a mob to watch and film it and post it all over the internet for the whole planet to see. See what it feels like to be humiliated like that, to know that all those people watched, and no one did anything!
4. The fact that here we are again, with a stupid almighty gridiron that must be protected at all costs story. Penn State in miniature. I would not cry at this point if football from the NFL on down were outlawed in this country. I'm tired of hearing about how almighty football is used to hide the horrible atrocities of players and coaches, atrocities which usually involve rape of women or men, and pedophilia. Since they went to such great lengths to try to get this teenage girl to keep quiet, the one from the Steubenville case, I can't help but wonder if there are others, like there were with Penn State. How many more players thought they were above everyone else and abused women or even men? Perhaps a coach or two?
Lastly, since I can't find anything that suggests the rapist force fed booze to the girl from the Steubenville case, or any of the other teenage girl got drunk to the point of unconsciousness and then raped cases, I'm going with they were stupid, and should not have gotten so drunk that they were not aware of their circumstances.
Its not just women who have to be cautious when drinking. A coworker's friend lost her son after he got drunk to the point of passing out. Prior to getting that drunk, he got into an argument with some other guys who were in a gang. They waited until he was passed out, and killed him. Body wasn't found for months.
Our rape culture is not what is terrifying; the fact that people watch these things happen and do nothing is terrifying. The classmates could have done something. They did nothing. Except tell the Steubenville victim in a really horrifying way that she had been raped and used for over six hours.
When I was a teenager not too long ago my parents taught me that I should watch who I get drunk with if I decide to get drunk. Because if I ever got to that point I'd have to trust whoever I was with, because when you are that badly drunk, anyone can do anything to you, from mugging, to rape, to murder, or all of the above.
You're missing the point. The false arrest, and the threats made by the judge after I proved my innocence, has nothing to do with victims of other crimes. If you were to start a thread about false accusations of rape it would be a good thread with real concerns. But, that's not about rape. It's not about the women, children, and men who are raped every day the globe over. You see, rape exists independent of our legal system. Rape exists beyond the US boarders. It's independent of your issues here. I guess it doesn't matter how many ways I describe the point. You will probably not get it.
Of course it's about them.
With so many high-profile cases involving false accusations of rape, the blind zeal of prosecutors in going after these innocent men and what we now know are thousands of innocent men being sent to prison with "kill me" signs on their backs, there is no way I as a juror could possibly vote to convict an accused rapist without slam dunk evidence, and that means the prevalence of false accusations will undoubtedly result in the guilty going free.
People should raise their children far away from mass media and television until they're about 10 years old.
That way the negative misogynistic images aren't burned into their minds when Mom or Dad are away from monitoring their television consumption.
At 10 years old you should be able to judge what's reality and fantasy and right and wrong with regard to the images on television.
The T.V. is raising too many children. Video games are raising too many children. ETC.
Let's get to the bottom of why the "rape" culture is so prevalent and acceptable without a wince among young people, not to mention how so many social mores that our grand parents AND GREAT GRANDPARENTS had like CIVILITY, RESPECT and common COURTESY are seldom seen in society today.
Women do not need counselling after rape, that is just a PC sham to try and stop rape from happening.
tell that to my aunt, who was raped by her college professor, forcefully, and lived with psychological issues, that it made her a recluse for nearly 10 years. She couldn't go outside for fear that a man would talk to her.
No amount counseling helped her get over her issues. It took the guidance of young girl who was raped by her Uncle to finally get her to deal with the rape.
Speaking as a straight (not that this should matter), healthy young male myself, recent news events (Steubenville, etc) and some research on polls and surveys have made me even more sickened by the brutal callousness with which male and female rape victims are treated by society today. I've never experienced sexual assault, nor do I have any family members/friends that I know have undergone such an experience, but I can emphasize with how horrifying of an experience a rape must be. What must feel even worse, however, is when your community refuses to believe or care about your trauma. It's disgusting, to say the least.
A large variety of independent studies indicate that as many as 1 in 5 women have been raped in their lifetime and as many as 8% of college males, primarily fraternity members and athletes, have admitted to attempting or committing rape. I don't think many people, particularly men, understand just how traumatic an experience rape is. Upwards of 35% of rape victims report contemplating suicide following their experience, and the level of post traumatic stress in rape victims is higher than among war veterans. Even more dreadful is the report that only 3-6% of rapists are ever convicted for their crimes, thanks to a combination of police incompetence and a disturbing quantity of rape apologists.
With this in mind, the disgusting kneejerk reaction of your typical misogynist that the woman should be help responsible for <insert arbitrary reason here> is the equivalent of telling a young boy that he deserved to watch his parents get burned alive in a house fire because he threw out his vegetables, or telling a torture victim that he deserved his experience because he didn't wash his hands. What kind of a sociopath thinks that drinking a little too much on the night means you deserve to suffer a lifelong, traumatic experience?
I'm usually an optimist, but holy ****. Holy ****.
You left out that rape and sexual assault crimes have been in decline in the United States....
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