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Old 06-06-2013, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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What's your point? Simply posting links and not saying a damn thing does nothing for your argument.
Well, no...not if the reader is too lazy to click on and read the links.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:34 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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And the next two decades...

I'm not going to get in to it with you because you know damn well why that high unemployment came about. It's not like he (really Volker) was going to reign in ridiculous and persistent interest rates and inflation rates by without some consequences.
I have no problem with what Volker did.
What I have a problem is you lying about the UE rate under Reagan. Once again, Reagan ENDED his Presidency with a good UE rate - but the vast majority of his 2 terms was spent with VERY HIGH unemployment.

It should also be pointed out that by mid-1983 the inflation rate had been reduced to as low as 2.5% - but the UE rate remained at 7% or more for nearly 3 MORE YEARS.

At THIS POINT in Reagan's Presidency the UE rate was at 7.3% (right now under Obama it's at 7.5%) - and A YEAR LATER it was STILL over 7% (at 7.2% to be precise) - so his record in regards to the UE rate is pretty darn similar to Obama's.

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com...flation-rates/

Ken

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Old 06-06-2013, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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None of your "links" say anything about how much money was spent on HIV/AIDS during the Regan era. I wonder why?
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Reagan would attending his impeachment trial in today's political climate.
Reagan has around 15 appointees and cabinet members indicted including Casper Weinberger (Sec of Defense) and Poindexter (BSA) who were convicted, many more with some rather shady issues.

Yes in todays world he would be impeached, still don't understand how he escaped.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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None of your "links" say anything about how much money was spent on HIV/AIDS during the Regan era. I wonder why?
They're about three different subjects; only one relates to Reagan's reluctance to publicly address what was becoming a pandemic, and the claims by the CDC that they weren't receiving enough funding to isolate and determine a treatment for this new disease. Perhaps you don't remember the tremendous stigma attached to an AIDS diagnosis in the early '80s, or the tragedy of children like Ryan White.

Who Was Ryan White?
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I don't care what you have read; we have all read things that are true and things that are not:
Murray Rothbard was no liar. He was the father of modern libertarianism. And he knew Reagan was a left-wing Statist.

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Reagan was more of a Libertarian than anything...


Reagan talked a good game, but in practice was as libertarian as Nancy Pelosi.

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...and most of all he built up our defense which had gone to pot. A strong defense cost money or did you think it was free?
What if I don't want my taxes raised to pay for a national offense? I never agreed to fund an empire.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Reagan's policies on defense were pretty much the polar opposite of Libertarian. He used deficit spending to massively expand the military so that he could get involved in conflicts all over the globe. It is laughable that the same person that cooked up schemes like Iran-Contra can be described as a Libertarian.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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Say what you will about Reagan, but he gave Republicans hope.

Sadly, little did Reagan and the Republicans know, There's No Hope Without Dope.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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Reagan has around 15 appointees and cabinet members indicted including Casper Weinberger (Sec of Defense) and Poindexter (BSA) who were convicted, many more with some rather shady issues.

Yes in todays world he would be impeached, still don't understand how he escaped.
Popularity. Despite EVERYTHING seemingly going on around him he still remaained PERSONALLY popular with the American Public. There are going to be three things needed now to impeach AND CONVICT a president in an impeachment trial. They are (in no order) a bad economy, presidential unpopularity(of the personal kind) and DIRECT EVIDENCE(AKA a smoking gun) that directly ties the president to the charges. Nixon had all three while in the case of Regan you had one(his own speech admiting arms were traded for hostages). Regan could of been(and some people say) he SHOULD have been impeached and CONVICETD(and removed from office) for the selling of arms to Iran as selling arms to a sworn enemy is pretty serious isn't it?
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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They're about three different subjects; only one relates to Reagan's reluctance to publicly address what was becoming a pandemic, and the claims by the CDC that they weren't receiving enough funding to isolate and determine a treatment for this new disease. Perhaps you don't remember the tremendous stigma attached to an AIDS diagnosis in the early '80s, or the tragedy of children like Ryan White.

Who Was Ryan White?
Not mentioning it often does not mean he was ignoring it.
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