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Old 07-16-2013, 11:03 AM
 
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Did not a single reporter present have a camera-equiped phone, or a digital camera?
are you ever going to acknowledge that it was photographed?
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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"NO PERSON except a natural "born citizen" shall be eligible to the office of the President,".
And everyone you think isn't - is. SCOTUS doesn't read anything from pismire.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:24 AM
 
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" one reporter did photograph the certificate on that occasion; Savannah Guthrie. She apparently has never been approached by Zullo either."

Apparently you are ignorant of the fact that she did not photograph anything during the press conference
Oh yes she did. I have a photo proving it.
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Te birthers are the gift that keeps on giving, as they pedal discredited theories and lawsuits that repeatedly get dismissed. They prove to the country what ultra conservatism is, as the double-down on dumb.

It should be embarrassing to SC to have this guy as one of their Congressman -- but if you think he's bad, look at his constituents.
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:08 AM
 
Location: North America
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Well, this just goes to prove there are now three things that are assured in life: Death, Taxes and the stupidity of birthers.
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:36 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Thumbs up Congressman (Chairman Of Homeland Security Oversight Subcommittee) Wants New Investigation Of Obama's Eligibility

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Actually he is the Chairman of the House Homeland Security Oversight Subcommittee named Rep. Jeff Duncan. I think it would be beneficial to the national security of this nation that a formal congressional hearing into Obama's original 52 year old birth documents and birth origin. To end this nightmare this nation is suffering from. Congressman Jeff Duncan and Congressman Stockman are just the type of lawmakers Americans needed to call for a investigation in order to basically to get this thing initiated. Since Obama has been elected, America has essentially had a black cloud hanging over it's head. It's time for that cloud to dissipate. Sheriff Arpaio's rock solid evidence his Cold Case Posse has accumulated over a 21 month investigation confirming the birth certificate in PDF form Obama gave authorization to be released to the public back on April 27, 2011 was a created forgery. It's time to open up Obama's records and get to the bottom of this once and for all. Obama does not clearly have America's best interest in his heart nor does he show allegiance to the United State. He is a 100% fraud perpetrated upon the American people.

You and Duncan should contact Trump's "crack team of Hawaiian investigators" and then reveal to us all what they found a couple of years ago. Because Trump bellowed about it for awhile. Then clammed up.

Do your duty, you two investigative patriots. And blow up this whole birth certificate controversy. Because nowadays even the supermarket tabloids won't touch it.
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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Everything about Obama's birth certificate is fake. It is not a photocopy of a real hospital birth certificate, it's just a digital abstract, just like the signature stamp is not a real signature but an abstract rubber-stamp signature, and like the seal which is from an abstract programmable embossing device and not a real die-cast drop-forged sculptured molded metal image in negative. My, how the states love to use the "full faith & credit" clause to cheapen their work and de-legitimize their certification to save a little money and effort.
The birth certificate became irrelevant the moment the STATE of HAWAII publicly affirmed that their records show that President Obama was born there. Because all a birth certificate does is certify that a state's records reflect the information on the certificate. Once the STATE affirms that affirmation, the birth certificate becomes redundant.
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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The birth certificate became irrelevant the moment the STATE of HAWAII publicly affirmed that their records show that President Obama was born there. Because all a birth certificate does is certify that a state's records reflect the information on the certificate. Once the STATE affirms that affirmation, the birth certificate becomes redundant.
What if the state officials were complicit in fraud? This government is full of criminals.
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Apparently you are ignorant of the fact that she did not photograph anything during the press conference but days or hours later when she, and only she, was allowed to see and handle the Holy Grail of Obama's fraudulent eligibility.
Well, now we know you are just making stuff up since Guthrie reported her handling of the certificate the same night as it was released. So your gratuitous suggestion of "days" is merely one of your perennial demonstrations of cluelessness. You assertion that "only she" was allowed to see or handle it is likewise pulled entirely from rectal defilade. You really need to stop making stuff up.

Not that it matters. Minutes, hours, days, weeks... who cares? You said it was not photographed. You were wrong. Again.

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She, being a young and loyal sycophant with nary an ounce of skepticism in her, was granted permission to see it again in private. Wow! What Great Public Vetting!!!
Most birthers are happy just moving the goal posts. You are not content until you completely blow them up. Another demonstration of why birthers are unworthy of the tiniest bit of respect for even pretending to have rhetorical integrity.

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She saw the seal and touched it"? Learn to comprehend what you read. Quote: "it lacked an authentic embossed seal from Hawaii".
Again, you have to stop making stuff up. You have no basis other than desperation for asserting the seal was not completely adequate and authentic. Different photographs of different documents taken in different lighting conditions do not salvage your frantic hand-waving.

You keep forgetting that the "seal" is only a way of making the State of Hawaii's authentication portable. The issue is fundamentally not about the seal, but about that State's certification. And the State of Hawaii has certified multiple times now that the President was born in Hawaii, and that all the information on the birth certificate is correct.

Absent rebutting evidence (and we all know that after 5 years, births still have none) there is no higher authority on the planet that can contradict them.

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Nothing lacking a real signature is certifiable because the certification comes via the signature of a real human official, -not a secretary with a cheap rubber stamper. That constitutes a bastardization of certification of the most egregious sort.
Again, your ignorance outstrips your ability to argue. From time immemorial, any mark made by an individual or organization serves the full and complete legal purpose of a "signature." An "X." An initial. A fingerprint. A symbol. A drawing. Signature stamps in particular gave been repeatedly declared absolutely valid as signatures by multiple courts of law. Look at your next paycheck (assuming you are employed). Is the signature handwritten? Stamped? Engraved?

Your failure is fractal.

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Everything about Obama's birth certificate is fake. It is not a photocopy of a real hospital birth certificate, it's just a digital abstract, just like the signature stamp is not a real signature but an abstract rubber-stamp signature, and like the seal which is from an abstract programmable embossing device and not a real die-cast drop-forged sculptured molded metal image in negative. My, how the states love to use the "full faith & credit" clause to cheapen their work and de-legitimize their certification to save a little money and effort.
Not a single sentence, not a single clause in that entire paragraph bears any resemblance to the truth.

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Old 07-18-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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What if the state officials were complicit in fraud? This government is full of criminals.
When are you positing that this fraud happened? In 1961, when the birth certificate was filed and birth announcements placed in two newspapers? Or in 2008, when Republicans controlled Hawaii's state government? Or when the Hawaiian government transitioned from a Republican governor to a Democratic governor?
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