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Old 06-26-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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Why is it a revelation to some, proof to others, that a neighborhood watch person should report suspicious activities to police?

These calls also highlight how hard a job 911 really is.

 
Old 06-26-2013, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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really his past is irrelevant

the fact of being 6'3 former high school football player with anger issues

the fact that he was from a broken home

the fact that he was suspended at least 3 times just in the past year

the fact that he was caught with stolen property and burglery tools

the fact that he had a pipe and an bag of weed residue

the fact that he told his girl friend he was going to get this guy who was watching him

the fact that he was acting suspicous, looking in some of the houses, (casing/checking out )

the fact of his offensive tweets and illegally having a gun

realy that is all irrelevant


the facts are a punk kid was acting suspicous in a neighborhood that was having problems with robberies, he was tailed/observed by the neighborhood watch, TM attacked the neighborhood watch, and unfortuatly was killed in self defense
Yes, it's all irrelevant. TM was a total stranger to GZ. GZ didn't know any of the above. Some of your "facts" are less than that, as well.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If they mean nothing for the prosecution, WHY did the Defense fight so hard to keep the calls out of evidence???
because the prosecution can SPIN IT to sound different from what it is

put your self in Z's spot...you are a neighborhood watch person...the PEOPLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD call you. and you call it in to 911...and of the 11 times you call in (? number) (let's say 8) 8 are of black people ....they could EASILY SPIN-IT as you are racist...even though the FACT is those 8/11 calls (FROM THE NEIGHBORS) were of suspisour people that HAPPENED to be black


the prosicution could EAILY TURN THIS INTO A RACE THING...even though it may not be
 
Old 06-26-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
really his past is irrelevant

the fact of being 6'3 former high school football player with anger issues

the fact that he was from a broken home

the fact that he was suspended at least 3 times just in the past year

the fact that he was caught with stolen property and burglery tools

the fact that he had a pipe and an bag of weed residue

the fact that he told his girl friend he was going to get this guy who was watching him

the fact that he was acting suspicous, looking in some of the houses, (casing/checking out )

the fact of his offensive tweets and illegally having a gun

realy that is all irrelevant


the facts are a punk kid was acting suspicous in a neighborhood that was having problems with robberies, he was tailed/observed by the neighborhood watch, TM attacked the neighborhood watch, and unfortuatly was killed in self defense
Yes, all of the above is irrelevant in this trial. There has already been a hearing regarding whether or not anything about Martin's character (past) can come into evidence, and the Court ruled it could not be used in opening statements. The only way it could come in is if some prosecution witnesses testifies to something about Martin's character, then that opens the door. I don't think that kind of mistake will be made. George Zimmerman is the person on trial; not Trayvon Martin.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 07:51 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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This crazy woman. Her 911 call is hilarious. She has a captive audience in that poor dispatcher, who can't hang up on her.
Give me a break! She had just seen a murder.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's the LAW which determines whether or not Martin's tweets and past is allowed in. So far the Court has ruled they cannot come in BASED ON THE LAW. And ONE MORE TIME, Zimmerman did not know Martin at the time he shot and killed him and he did not know anything about Martin's past.
correct zimmerman did not know martin...and therefore martin didnt know zimmerman

but the fact that martin was a troublemaker, certainly does SHOW CAUSE that he possibly was the attacker
 
Old 06-26-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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It's amazing that TM has a different height every day.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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The defense is gonna descimate this freaky lady. She just said the calls for help came from someone who ultimately died.

OK, then.

I see "hostile witness" being declared.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Miami, Florida
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correct zimmerman did not know martin...and therefore martin didnt know zimmerman

but the fact that martin was a troublemaker, certainly does SHOW CAUSE that he possibly was the attacker
Martin was kicked out from his mommas house a few days before he died, he was an animal out of control.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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The defense is gonna descimate this freaky lady. She just said the calls for help came from someone who ultimately died.

OK, then.

I see "hostile witness" being declared.
Absolutely, she isn't dealing with fact, just tainted opinion. She's toast.
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