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Yes that's it precisely. As was testified to, Zimmerman had a round in the chamber. This is a common practice, especially if carrying a weapon for self-defense purposes. After all, in an emergency situation, that time spent cocking the gun would take several seconds that could mean the difference between life and death.
Many of us do not carry guns for self-defense or otherwise. Interesting assumption that "everyone" carries a gun, therefore, everyone should know how to "load" a gun and the ins and outs which the expert testified about.
I got it now. When Zimmerman goaded Martin into fighting, it's legit for Zimmerman to shoot Martin.
nice how you throw a fellow democrat under the bus denying him due process in a court of law
So far the prosecution has done at a great job at:
1) proving someone was killed
2) identifying George Zimmerman
3) proving that George Zimmerman did in fact have a gun
4) helping the defense establish self defense and impeaching many of their own witnesses
I didn't really understand that demonstration she gave. It looked like she was showing what one needed to do to shoot the gun. I thought she said that the gun had to be cocked, and I thought that was what she was doing when she was using both hands. Can you pull that part of the gun back, which she demonstrated, then put the gun in a holster, and later pull the gun and shoot it? How does that work?
Yes, that is exactly how you "work" a semi-automatic handgun. Starting with the gun in the unloaded state, with the magazine removed. The magazine is first loaded to capacity. Then inserted into the grip of the gun. The gun can not shoot at this point, a round first has to be stripped from the magazine and positioned in the barrel (to be specific, the chamber). That is done by pulling back on the slide and releasing it, sometimes called "racking". Once that is done the gun can be fired. Normal practice is then to remove the magazine and replace the one round that is now loaded in the chamber, then replace the mag in the gun. At that point the gun would finally go in the holster. To fire, remove from holster and squeeze the trigger.
To be clear, you don't need to "rack the slide" when you go to shoot, as long as the gun has been loaded, racked previously and secured in the holster. That is typical Hollywood bullcrap where the cop gets out of his car, chases a bad guy, points a gun at him and finally racks the slide. I carry every day, the slide hasn't been worked in at least a month (since it was last cleaned properly...which I need to address!). Anyone that knows a thing about firearms will tell you the same thing.
The prosecution tried to make an issue of no external safety being on that gun. Which is just silly. The bulk of the defensive handguns sold, as well as the bulk of LEO weapons, have no external safety.
May be common practice for police officers. I do not see this as common nor prudent to run around w/ a cocked gun. I think this shows George's intent.
No it doesn't, I believe the army officer and the firearm specialist both testified that it is common and accepted practice. The gun can't go off unless you pull the trigger.
How do you know he didn't? It sounds like Zimmerman found him to me.
In the middle of the complex at the T intersection. TM would have been hiding in plain sight if that were the case. If that were the case why would GZ let him get close enough to sucker punch him if he had a weapon at his disposal? He could have pulled the gun to let TM know he was armed or even shot him under SYG, if TM came toward him. TM did not give him time to pull it at that point.
It goes to Zimmerman's credibility. Does he lie A LOT. Does he lie often. Can you take what he says at face value. That's how is helps the prosecution. Remember, these trials end with CLOSING ARGUMENTS by both attorneys and they CANNOT use any information in closing that was not brought brought out as evidence during the trial. NOW, the prosecution can argue that Zimmerman lied about his knowledge of the SYG law, as well as so many other things a lot of you guys think at this time means nothing. If either attorney says ANYTHING in closing that was not brought out as evidence from the witness stand or physical exhibits, the other atty will object immediately and the Judge will rule on it....It's not good for an attorney to get "caught" saying stuff in closing that was not brought out in evidence during the trial because that makes jurors "suspicious" of everything else that attorney has to say.
Seems to me, from what I've seen on TV today, the Medical Examiner who actually did the autopsy on Martin has still not been called and is yet to come. That could be a very critical witness in this trial.
What is more telling is that the prosecution is not going to call that Medical Examiner.
May be common practice for police officers. I do not see this as common nor prudent to run around w/ a cocked gun. I think this shows George's intent.
No this is common practice on a weapon designed for self defense as his is. As someone said, with a self defense weapon, you want it ready to go. To take time to fool with it could cost you being shot with your own weapon.
George was on his way to Target..... Supposedly.....
He must live in a pretty rough area to have one in the chamber just to go to the store. Ludicrous.
We presume the defendant o be innocent until proven otherwise. If there was any reason to doubt where GZ was heading the state would have brought that up.
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Originally Posted by FancyFeast5000
Many of us do not carry guns for self-defense or otherwise. Interesting assumption that "everyone" carries a gun, therefore, everyone should know how to "load" a gun and the ins and outs which the expert testified about.
No assumption was made, that's why the defense spent so much time going over the gun mechanisms and functionality.
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