Zimmerman Trial Part 5 The Jury Decides (illegal, drug, boycott, Hispanics)
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Zimmerman initiated the entire turn of events, by exiting his vehicle. No good could come from doing that.
Was departing his vehicle a criminal offense?
There is no proof that Martin started the attack (only that he bested him in the physical confrontation).[/quote]
Why is it that whenever it refers to Zimmerman, you want proof, but when it refers to Martin, you are willing to accept supposition??
No one has proof about who started the attack. It's taken as fact (by both sides) that Zimmerman initiated the events by exiting his vehicle. Are you arguing otherwise?
What were the wounds on Trayvon Martin? Is there some evidence to suggest that Zimmerman punched Martin or had been beating him up pretty badly to justify banging Zimmerman's head into the concrete as self defense?
A person's talking to you or asking you a question doesn't justify punching them in the nose and banging their head into the concrete as "self defense".
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It's funny how you chose to compare GZ motive before he reached TM, to TM motives after they started fighting. Why not use TM's motives before GZ reached him? Or GZ motives after they started fighting? Compare apples to apples?
TM's motives seem to have been to teach the creepy-assed cracker a lesson.
GZ's motives before Trayvon attacked him were not criminal.
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And? He was on the way home & Zimmerman followed him. And all we have is Zimmerman's words about how their confrontation went down.
The prosecution's star witness (who must have had hours of coaching by Crump and co.) said he had made it home:
"I asked him where he at, and he told me he at the back of his daddy fiancee house."
Black people, you really picked a losing horse on this one. Sorry.
Really. There are / were other cases that you might have won.
It seems the state really never had a chance with this one. Wonder how much this whole boondoggle cost the tax payers?
And, there's never a dearth of problems in your own community that need sorting out.
Hope that one day you get around to fixing them. Feel sorry for the Martin family, and for Zimmerman's.
Now, let's move on...
Why do you assume only Black people care about justice for Trayvon?
What are you doing to fix the problems in your own community? When did whites suddenly become a crime free race?
Black on black violence hit its peak in the 80's/early 1990's as a result of the crack epidemic. The gangs I am familiar with are about drug selling and protecting their turf to do their illegal activities. And while I agree that the victims are someone's son/daughter, somewhere along the way, the parent(s) failed them. And they need to take responsibility for that. Innocent bystanders are the true victims in these sort of stories.
I find it interesting how white murderers are passed off as criminally insane. It seems to suggest that rational white people don't commit crimes (while at the same time suggesting it comes as second nature to black people).
It's not a race issue. What sane individual walks into a crowded theater and opens up on innocent movie attendees? What sane individual walks into a school and opens up on a classroom of children? Even the gangbangers wouldn't do that.. That is insanity.. Are there white criminals? You bet there are. Even my people have criminals. All races have criminals. Sadly the black youth in our major cities have turned to the drug culture and as you said protect their turf. They would do the same if they were running whores, gambling or any other number of illegal activities.. It's not the nature of black youth, but rather the nature of a gang mentallity... Where I live, we have the same thing among the hispanic community.
I thought a lot of you declared Rachel a liar? I guess you only believe the parts of her story that suit you.
The parts of her story that contradict her bias are believable. When someone makes an admission that goes against what they are trying to prove, it has credibility. (Some might call it an "admission against one's own interest".)
It's not his job to "catch" anyone. You wait for the police to apprehend a suspect. Let's say Trayvon was the burglar they'd all been looking for. Zimmerman had no authority to detain/arrest him, so just stand back and let the cops do their work.
re: the gun. That is so silly, I can't even...
From your final standpoint, I can see there's no having a reasonable discussion with you...
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