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Old 07-16-2013, 09:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ed from California View Post
No it didn't. The POS thug got *exactly* what he deserved. The real benefit? He can't reproduce more of the same P'sOS as he was. One less thug is great news for America.
Wow, why in your mind did he deserve to die. A thug...really? Why is that. Your statement is exactly why some think its about race. Way to go

 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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"As a parent, particularly a parent of black teenage boys, I am left with the question, “Now, what do I tell my boys?”

We used to say not to run in public because that might be seen as suspicious, like they’d stolen something. But according to Zimmerman, Martin drew his suspicion at least in part because he was walking too slowly.

So what do I tell my boys now? At what precise pace should a black man walk to avoid suspicion?

And can they ever stop walking away, or running away, and simply stand their ground? Can they become righteously indignant without being fatally wounded?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/op..._20130716&_r=0
"Stand their ground?" That's ironic.

Tell him he can be righteously indignant but to keep his hands to himself unless attacked first.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:41 PM
 
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Stand your ground was in the jury instructions, and were mentioned by B37.
SYG still did not apply!
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:41 PM
 
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Did you know that the judge ruled that the prosecution wasn't allowed to say the words, "racial profiling" during the trial?

The prosecution wanted two of these six jurors to not be on the jury, and the judge ruled against them. I'm sure that one of them was B37.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:41 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The system didn't seem to fail Martin when the police downgraded his criminal record to achieve some sort of departmental goal unrelated to the Zimmerman case.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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Excuses, excuses...

The state failed.
The jury was corrupt.
The police were racist.
Bad prosecution.
Witnesses lied.

Why can people just accept that Trayvon screwed up really bad ?
Exactly! We live in a society that seeks to undermine personal responsibility.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ellemint View Post
"As a parent, particularly a parent of black teenage boys, I am left with the question, “Now, what do I tell my boys?”

We used to say not to run in public because that might be seen as suspicious, like they’d stolen something. But according to Zimmerman, Martin drew his suspicion at least in part because he was walking too slowly.

So what do I tell my boys now? At what precise pace should a black man walk to avoid suspicion?

And can they ever stop walking away, or running away, and simply stand their ground? Can they become righteously indignant without being fatally wounded?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/op..._20130716&_r=0
It was raining. Instead of moving quickly to get out the rainlike most would, he was linguiring back and forth.....
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Stand your ground was in the jury instructions, and were mentioned by B37.
And if the law didn't apply, how was Zimmerman to retreat with Martin on top of him?
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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SYG still did not apply!
It did according to the jury instructions, and the jury itself, so I don't know why you say that.

SYG wasn't used by Zimmerman as a defense, but B37 specifically mentioned it as one of the reasons the jury found Zimmerman not guilty. Watch the interview with Anderson Cooper.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:43 PM
 
Location: USA
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The system didn't seem to fail Martin when the police downgraded his criminal record to achieve some sort of departmental goal unrelated to the Zimmerman case.
You mean like Zimmerman molesting his cousin, beating his girlfriend and assaulting an officer?


Who's the thug again?
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